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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Conder101, post: 1867743, member: 66&quot;]Then why won&#039;t the major TPG&#039;s guarantee the color designation?</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Unless it is so heavily toned that the toning itself has disrupted the surface topography.&nbsp; Even then it may still have luster, just don&#039;t ever remove the toning because the surface will go with it.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>It would be listed as brown because most of the original red color is gone, but not all of it.&nbsp; In the protected areas tere is still some red and luster remaining.&nbsp; (On an XF-45 coin it is also possible for it to be completely brown and still have luster in the protected areas.)[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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