What's a Triple Talon Head Ike worth?

You may end up with the "YOU SUCK" award when this is all said and done.

Also, the "triple clash" that Richard posted earlier is not as distinct as yours. I can kinda understand the process of how that was formed vs. how yours was formed...I think what Larry was hinting at, but yours has the distinct "talon" clash.

 

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Ike Collectors can but nuts.....I say north of $200 unless it grades better than AU then north of $300. That is conservative imho.

 

Well...the award will go to someone else, because it's not mine. It's my auctioneer friend's. HE bought it for $1.10...of course, he wouldn't have even noticed this without me, so maybe we share the award?

And...I seriously doubt this eclipses that 1932 China $1 I got for melt less than a year ago.

 

Do not bet on it, unless that is worth piles of $$$

 

Add one more $ and you have the pile that one went for...

 

You're a good buddy. Nice assist!

 

Does anyone have the ability to do an overlay using your obverse/reverse photo?
Larry Nienaber

 

I can give it a shot, since I still have the raw files and Photoshop.

 

Okay, it's not perfect...but here's my first go. Reverse is at 25% Opacity and needs to be rotated to line up, but I think you can get an idea of where the clash is coming from:

 

heres 1 from mad clash I think your has this clash too, its from mad die clashes

 

It looks to me like the talons are higher on the head than yours...do you think its a match?

Larry Nienaber

 

It's not specifically from the talons, but either the spaces in between the talons or, maybe in this one, the leaves next to the talons? That might be a match...

 

lots of clashes for the 71-D, and that moon also has a clash too

 

FWIW: AndyO at IkeGroup (site admin) has just chimed in...verification of the Triple Talon Head, but his opinion on value is around $25. Cue "Wah-wahhhhhh" noise. Ha ha ha...

 

Rick,

That one is, I believe, called a "Hair Lip." Good lord, this coin...full of clashes! Good eye - I didn't even see that!

 

that coin is worth a lot more then 25 dollar

 

Yeah, I would tend to agree with that assessment. I don't know if ANACS will have room for all the attributions, though...ha ha ha...

 

their write an article too on it

 

$25? I will give you $50!

 

Larry, it is definitely from a clash. Actually, its from 3 separate incidences of clashing where slight rotation occurred during the clash.

Pick out an IKE and flip it over.
Note the area right between the eagles legs where the moon horizon passes through.

This is the "deepest" area of the coins reverse and conversely, the "highest" point on the reverse die.

When the dies clash, this area makes that talon punch right smack into IKE's temporal area. Add a little rotation and that punch will move, left, right, up, down.
The minting process allows for movement in the dies to prevent damage to the presses. Slight movement but movement none the less.

It is this movement which creates the different double and triple clash marks.


On a severe clash, the U in UNUM can be transferred to the Obverse die creating an upside down U (UDU)



As noted by the OP in a later post, the crown of IKE's head can also create a line across the moon on the reverse which is referred to as a "moon line". These can also be in double and triple configurations.



As with anything in the coin making process, attention needs to be paid by the press operator and with the large coins (Kennedy and IKE) that just does not appear to be the case. Also, as with anything in coin collecting, the more prominent the clash, the less the collector has to explain and the more value the coin has.