What Your Budget Buys - $150 Edition

About $105 with fees and shipping.

which I now see is below your $125 threshold...oh well too late..I can't move this to the $75 thread.


ISLAMIC, Anatolia & al-Jazira Dirhem c.1200


ISLAMIC, Anatolia & al-Jazira (Post-Seljuk). Artuqids (Mardin). Husam al-Din Yuluq Arslan. AH 580-597 / AD 1184-1200. AE Dirhem (31mm, 16.35 g, 6h). Unlisted (Mardin[?]) mint. Dated AH 596 (AD 1199/1200). The planet Mars represented in contemporary Turkish garb, in military outfit and cross legged, seated facing, holding severed head and raised sword; to left, floral spray containing three buds or flowers (roses or pomegrantes; ornamental scrollwork in exergue / Name and titles of Abbasid caliph in three lines; names and titles of Ayyubid overlord in inner margin; name of Husam al-Din Yuluq Arslan and AH date in outer margin. Whelan pp. 103-4; S&S Type 36.3; Album 1829.4. VF, earthen brown patina. Ex CNG ex Warden Family Collection


from CNG 97 Although Islamic tradition (hadith) prohibits the depiction of humans or animals, it was not always strictly enforced. One such instance of this was the coinage of the Turkoman dynasties the Artuqids, Zangids, and Danishmendids, as well as the Ayyubids which included a variety of human and animal figural types on their bronze dirhems. Initially nomads, these groups, once they settled in the regions of Mesopotamia (al Jazira) and Anatolia and established dynasties there, recognized the need to establish political legitimacy over the areas they now ruled. These territories had been governed by a variety of earlier empires (Greek, Roman, Byzantine, and Sasanian), and consisted of various Christian and Arabic groups, all of whom had long exposure to coinage as a medium for expressing political legitimacy. Respecting western culture, these Turkoman rulers also admired and appreciated western art (S&S p. xvii) and were open to accepting certain religious tenets and iconography within Judaism, Christianity, and Islam, which provided models for some of the Byzantine inspired coin types. Concurrently, a neoclassical revival was under way in the region of the al Jazira. Greek and Roman coins that existed as parts of then-available collections or individual examples provided the models for other coin types. These new coin types did not simply copy their ancient prototypes, but through an historical understanding of their motifs, they combine ancient and more contemporary iconography, or in turn classicize contemporary iconography, causing the viewer assume a connection to classical prototype which does not actually exist. The presence of so many different coin types might suggest a broad logical pattern to their usage, something that often fails when consideration is based on the types themselves. With so many different coin types in the series, it would seem impossible to find a logical pattern, However, when one considers that the origins of these dynasties were on the Central Asian steppes, where the heavens were fundamental for negotiating their day-to-day existence, these coin types demonstrate a marked astrological influence in their designs, something that makes them unique to their Turkoman issuers.

 

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I would have that one, great buy Bing. Just looking at the obverse I think both coins have different drapery, but hard to tell.

 

I paid too much for this one considering the condition it's in, but Eleanor coins don't come up for sale too often:

French Feudal, Aquitaine
Eleanor, r. 1185-1204
AR Denier, 17.86mm x 0.8 grams
Obv.: + DVCISIT, M above, A below, two cross pattee on either side
Rev.: + AQVITANIE, Cross Pattee inside
Ref.: AGC 9B (1/a), Duplessy 1025 (Anonymous of William X), Roberts 4313, SCBC 8011, De Wit 401

This one is a fairly reasonable price in this bracket considering its condition and rarity. There is some question as to whether it really was issued under William IX of Aquitaine or not (it would be more desireable as a William IX coin), but these are sometimes the mysteries of feudal coins

French Feudal, Toulouse
William IX of Aquitaine, second reign r. 1109-1117
AR Denier, 18.82 mm x 1.1 grams
Obv.: VVILELMO COME, Cross Pattee in center, S in second quarter
Rev.: +TOLOSA CIVI around, PAX in center
Ref.: Duplessy 1210 (as William IV), Roberts 4225 (As William IX), De Wit 439 (as William IV)

I may have overpaid a little for this coin, but it is my only confirmed King John coin (I have a cut penny that might be John), and it has a nice provenance. The photo makes it look a little more dirty and worn than it actually is - I need to retake this one.

England
John, r. 1199-1216 (1205-1216)
London Mint, AR Short Cross Penny, 18.12mm x 1.54 grams
Obv.: hENRICVS RE[X]. Bust facing crowned with sceptre, curls enclose pellets
Rev.: + WALTER . ON . LV. Short cross voided with quatrefoil in each angle
Ref.: North 971, SCBC 1353, CC99 JH1D-020, De Wit 3196
Ex. Dr. Murray Gell-Mann Collection

This fellow was in one of JA's auctions - my apologies to whomever I outbid on it, but these trifollaros don't come up in auctions too often, nor are they in this nice of a condition for the price it was going at.

Norman Italy - Calabria
Roger I, r. 1072-1101 (1098-1101)
Mileto Mint AE Trifollaro, 28.04 mm x 8.3 grams
Obv.: ROG [ERVS] COME +S. Roger, mounted left wearing Norman helm, holding kite shield and striped banner
Rev.: + MARIA [MATE]R DNI (’N’ retrograde). Enthroned nimbate Virgin Mary holding on lap Christ child, nimbate and in swaddling clothes right
Ref.: NCKS 131var., De Wit 3789, [MEC 14, 93]

Nothing much to say other than good detail and interesting coin

Crusader - Antioch
Tancred, Regent, r. 1101-1103, 1104-1112
AE Type 2 Follis, 20.3 mm x 3.3 grams
Obv.: Bust of Tancred facing, wearing turban, holding sword
Rev.: Cross pommetée, fleuronnée at base; IC XC NI KA in quarters
Ref.: De Wit 4079

 

A few recent captures. Seller pics, just have not had time... maybe 200+ not photo'd yet...

Fully Loaded Landed Cost: $140

RR Victoriatus 211-208 BCE Jupiter Victory Traphy VF Craw 53-1 Syd 83

Fully Loaded Landed Cost: $175

Anonymous. 115-114 B.C. AR denarius (19.52 mm, 3.82 g, 8 h). Rome mint. ROMA, helmeted head of Roma right; X behind / Roma seated right on pile of shields, holding spear; birds flying above; she-wolf suckling the twins Romulus and Remus before. Crawford 287/1; Sydenham 530; RSC 176. Good VF/VF, minor porosity, scratch on obverse. From the Joseph Donzanti Collection; Ex Roma Numismatics.

Fully Loaded Landed Cost: $170

Carthage. Ca. 300-264 B.C. AE 19 (19 mm, 5.62 g, 11 h). Mint on Sardinia. Wreathed head of Tanit left / Head of horse right; Punic ayin to right. CNP 252ay; MAA 57x; SNG Copenhagen 151. VF, dark brown patina.
From the J. P. Righetti Collection, 17.

Fully Loaded Landed Cost: $135

KYRENAICA. Kyrene.
Æ25, 9.6g, 12h; c. 250 BC.
Obv.: Diademed head of Zeus-Ammon right.
Rev.: K-O-I-N-O-N; Silphium plant; monogram to outer left.
Reference: SNG Copenhagen 1278; BMC 16-19.
From the @John Anthony - meister

Fully Loaded Landed Cost: $135

Octavian as Augustus, 27 BC – 14 AD Quinarius Emerita 25-23, AR 13.5mm., 1.79g. AVGVST Bare head r. Rev. P CARISI LEG Victory standing r. to crown trophy. C 387. RIC 1b
Scarse. Toned. Very Fine.
LEFT facing Sinister

Fully Loaded Landed Cost: $135

Carausius (usurper in Britain, AD 287–293).
Billon antoninianus, 4.7g, 24mm, 6h; London?
Obv.: IMP C CARAVSIVS P F AVG, radiate, cuirassed bust of Carausius right.
Rev.: PAX AVG, Pax standing left, holding branch and scepter, S—P across field.
Reference: RIC V 475.

 

This coin https://www.biddr.ch/auctions/numismatiknaumann/browse?a=94&l=83445 was one I was after in a recent auction but got away, so bought mine at fixed price from a dealer as a contalation prize.

 

Well, that coin is in mighty fine condition unlike mine. I paid $19 shipped.

 

Nice hammered coins. I really like the Eleanor. I was fortunate enough to win one yesterday.

 

I saw! I meant to comment, but I have been overrun with work this year...

 

I was a bit afraid that we would run into examples of similar coins with greatly varied prices but this really is not that example. The AA and Bing coins are very different in condition and, therefore, market value. My personal example of the coin is in-between their two in quality and price paid. That is the way of the hobby. The purpose of these threads was to demonstrate exmples of coins received for price paid. We did not expect to find consistency or agreement in which coins were bargains and which were things only a specialist could appreciate. Maybe when we have exhausted this series (was it up to $2000 or $5000 or 'heavyweight'?) perhaps we need one more thread showing the best 'deal'. Who has a coin worth 50 times the price paid? 1/50th? We have no Red Book to guide us.

 

And two more....

Iberia, Belikio. 100-70 B.C. AE as (28.9 mm, 14.69 g, 3 h). Male head right; Iberian BE behind / Horseman right holding spear, Iberian inscription below. ACIP 1433; SNG BM Spain 763-70; Burgos 243. VF. Scarce....$165.00



ROMAN REPUBLIC. Mn. Cordius Rufus. 46 BC. AR Denarius (3.97 gm). Jugate busts of the Dioscuri / Venus standing. Cordia.2a. Cr.463/1a. VF....$170.00

 

Bing's is an excellent bargain, but yours has that wonderful green patina and is in overall much better shape. The price difference may seem large, but IMHO the reasons for that are there to see.

 

Here are a couple of fairly recent coins in this price range.

Not including shipping.



150.



145.



I only have about 3 more I could show, this is the high end stuff for me!

 

I only had plans to go up to $500-$600, but if we have enough members happy to show their pricier coins, we could certainly continue beyond that.

 

I never cared much about the value of a certain coin that I bought for my collection. Of course, I've paid a lot more for a coin than it really was, just to my personal satisfaction. This is priceless. I do not regret those I spent more than I could, but I regret those I let pass. I believe that Numismatics is the best antidepressant for me. If I'm sad, pissed off or even stressed by day to day, there is nothing better than to look at my coins, or buy some that I have long been interested in. Well, this one I paid 170 bucks last year. It was very worth it!


OSTROGOTHS. Theoderic. 493-526. Æ 40 Nummi – Follis (23mm, 7.87 g, 12h). Class 3. Rome mint, 4th officina officina. Helmeted and cuirassed bust of Roma right / Eagle standing left, head right, with wings spread; XL to left; •Δ• in exergue. COI 76b; MEC 1, 101; MIB I 74a; Demo 42.

 

This one also fits in this thread, my one and only Marcus Aurelius for now


Marcus Aurelius, AD 161-180.
Æ Sestertius, 25.1g, 32mm, 11h; Rome, AD 170-171.
Obv.: IMP M ANTONINVS AVG TR P XXV; Laureate head right.
Rev.: PRIMI/DECEN/NALES/COS III/SC within wreath.
Reference: RIC III 1006, p. 293. Scarce.

 

I don't write down what I paid for shipping so I'm guessing on a couple of these prices but they're close enough.
150

125

150


125

165

 

this price range has a lot of interesting pieces -

RR coins by Babelon


a cast bronze bar 388 grams, 54x52x25mm


a RR quadrans over an earlier RR uncia

 

One comes to mind I'll save it for the topic if it gets made

 

Some nice stuff folks. I wouldn't mind having an "AVGGG" in this price range (even though I would prefer the three portraits than the three Gs )

Those two were bought in 2013 in the 120/125 € range (approx. 140/150 $ at today's rate)


Gallienus, Antoninianus Antioch mint, AD 265-266
GALLIENVS AVG radiate head left
AETERNITAS AVG she wolf standing right, suckling twins Romulus and Remus. Branch at exergue
3,9 gr, 20 mm
Ref : RIC V-1 # 628, Göbl # 1628a



Florianus, Antoninianus Lyon mint, 3rd emission, 1st officina
IMP C M AN FLORIANVS AVG, radiate, draped and cuirassed bust right seen from front (A)
TEMPORVM FELICITAS, Felicitas standing raight, holding caduceus in right hand and cornucopia in left hand. I at exergue (1st officina)
4.1 gr
Ref : RCV # 11874v., Bastien # 146 pl. XVI, RIC # 12, C # 89, La Venèra hoard # II.2/2632

Q

 

Two very sweet coins, Q!

I'm with you here. Of course, for the two additional portraits, we'll have to add two zeros to the price tag... and multiply the total a couple of times ...
https://cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=28186