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Message:: [QUOTE="BooksB4Coins, post: 2078212, member: 36230"]So you would rather have inexperienced and uninformed new collectors base their purchases on conjecture? I am certainly not saying that the TPGs are perfect, but common sense dictates that they indeed offer the novice a much more secure buying option than relying on their own non-existent skills or identification methods suitable for only the most rudimentary of fakes. The reality is that, fake slabs aside, the TPGs do a rather good job of weeding out counterfeits; your example, if true, is an exception and certainly not the rule. Now with that said, I am very big on using one's eye as opposed to blindly trusting an encased label, but the ability to do so comes with study and experience, so until that time comes, a new collector trusting their eye over that of a TPG is on a fool's errand. As for the "ring test" theory, with all due respect, it too is of questionable value for anything other than the often crude base metal fakes. Beyond this, any dealer willing to allow a potential buyer to smack their coins off of a hard surface[/QUOTE]