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<p>[QUOTE="lehmansterms, post: 2697970, member: 80804"]The conservation of uncleaned coins can, and often does become a hobby all its own, separate from "collecting" aspects, <i>per-se</i>. For those who find they have the patience, steady hands and the requisite temperament and enthusiasm for minutiae that serious coin-cleaning requires, the hobby of cleaning may be more rewarding than collecting.</p><p><br /></p><p>I would suggest, however, that electrolysis is absolutely the wrong place to start! It's like picking up a chain saw because you'd like to learn to whittle.</p><p>The best results for beginners will come from far more patience-oriented, soft-path approaches. Long soaks in distilled water, mild detergents, old toothbrushes with the bristles cut short - these are highly unlikely to make uncleaneds worse than when you started, which is a serious possible outcome of injudicious electrolysis experimentation. The worst cleaning disasters I have ever seen were the products of amateur electrolysis experimentation.</p><p><br /></p><p>Some things to bear in mind - </p><p><br /></p><p>A - no, you will never, ever, <b>ever</b> find any gold coins in uncleaned lots, period (and damned few silver) - more people have been sucked-in by the suggestion that there is undiscovered gold in those lots of "deer droppings" - or what I call "munitions-grade uncleaneds" - than any other shill I have ever seen in action. </p><p><br /></p><p>B - unless you are buying the absolute top-end uncleaneds (which can cost more than comparable cleaned coins in bulk!) you will probably have a "keeper-to-junk ratio" of 10% -20% at best. Not many coins came through their period of inhumation without incurring some serious, irreparable damage. Diggers in source countries have become far more sophisticated in their ability to triage finds in the field, and those pieces which show promise for cleaning-up into really decent specimens tend to get pulled right there, in the field - as do larger pieces like sestertii which increasingly are becoming "blank stock" for the sculpting of "toolies" from "the ground up" in Eastern European countries. Pieces like these - tantamount to forgery, pure and simple, in my opinion - have often brought amounts at auction in recent years similar to the hammer-price of un-tooled or genuine and fully authentic specimens. (Some rich people are crazy!)</p><p><br /></p><p>C - You may find that folks you talk to about the cleaning hobby will insist that it's impossible to get decent results without spending at least $200 on a stereoscope - and for some sorts of coins, they may be right. Or they might not be right, it's a very personal sort of hobby in terms of the techniques which will work for you.</p><p><br /></p><p>D - The techniques required to get good results will vary from coin to coin, even in lots from the same find. Each coin is like a miniature archeological site, and like archeological sites, no two will be the same, respond to the same excavation techniques or yield the same results. Plus, as a science, both digging and cleaning are "experiments" which cannot, by definition, be repeated - you can only disturb the site once.</p><p><br /></p><p>E - You will be in very good company. Many folks do some amount of cleaning. Many more used to clean, but have let it lapse. So it's easy to find folks willing to give you advice. Finding really useful advice, however, can be a bit more difficult.</p><p><br /></p><p>Good luck![/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="lehmansterms, post: 2697970, member: 80804"]The conservation of uncleaned coins can, and often does become a hobby all its own, separate from "collecting" aspects, [I]per-se[/I]. For those who find they have the patience, steady hands and the requisite temperament and enthusiasm for minutiae that serious coin-cleaning requires, the hobby of cleaning may be more rewarding than collecting. I would suggest, however, that electrolysis is absolutely the wrong place to start! It's like picking up a chain saw because you'd like to learn to whittle. The best results for beginners will come from far more patience-oriented, soft-path approaches. Long soaks in distilled water, mild detergents, old toothbrushes with the bristles cut short - these are highly unlikely to make uncleaneds worse than when you started, which is a serious possible outcome of injudicious electrolysis experimentation. The worst cleaning disasters I have ever seen were the products of amateur electrolysis experimentation. Some things to bear in mind - A - no, you will never, ever, [B]ever[/B] find any gold coins in uncleaned lots, period (and damned few silver) - more people have been sucked-in by the suggestion that there is undiscovered gold in those lots of "deer droppings" - or what I call "munitions-grade uncleaneds" - than any other shill I have ever seen in action. B - unless you are buying the absolute top-end uncleaneds (which can cost more than comparable cleaned coins in bulk!) you will probably have a "keeper-to-junk ratio" of 10% -20% at best. Not many coins came through their period of inhumation without incurring some serious, irreparable damage. Diggers in source countries have become far more sophisticated in their ability to triage finds in the field, and those pieces which show promise for cleaning-up into really decent specimens tend to get pulled right there, in the field - as do larger pieces like sestertii which increasingly are becoming "blank stock" for the sculpting of "toolies" from "the ground up" in Eastern European countries. Pieces like these - tantamount to forgery, pure and simple, in my opinion - have often brought amounts at auction in recent years similar to the hammer-price of un-tooled or genuine and fully authentic specimens. (Some rich people are crazy!) C - You may find that folks you talk to about the cleaning hobby will insist that it's impossible to get decent results without spending at least $200 on a stereoscope - and for some sorts of coins, they may be right. Or they might not be right, it's a very personal sort of hobby in terms of the techniques which will work for you. D - The techniques required to get good results will vary from coin to coin, even in lots from the same find. Each coin is like a miniature archeological site, and like archeological sites, no two will be the same, respond to the same excavation techniques or yield the same results. Plus, as a science, both digging and cleaning are "experiments" which cannot, by definition, be repeated - you can only disturb the site once. E - You will be in very good company. Many folks do some amount of cleaning. Many more used to clean, but have let it lapse. So it's easy to find folks willing to give you advice. Finding really useful advice, however, can be a bit more difficult. Good luck![/QUOTE]
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