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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;dcarr, post: 2161205, member: 4781&quot;]I disagree. The coin shown has a date placement and a mint mark placement that matches genuine 1889-CC VAM-5. The 1889-CC is genuine. The surface texture appears normal for 1889-CC VAM-5. As to grade, it may have been lightly cleaned. It is one of those coins that could come back &quot;cleaned&quot;, or it could fall anywhere in the range of AU-58 to MS-61 depending on how it looks to the grader in-hand.</p><p><br /></p><p>The 1893-CC is also genuine, and it appears to be MS-63 with a somewhat weak strike (so perhaps a &quot;net&quot; grade of MS-62).[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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