What Will it Grade 1884 CC

Too late guys, they already graded it 65DPL

https://www.ngccoin.com/certlookup/2720012-016/65/

 

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Guess I ought to read the whole thread. Perish the thought!

Nice score on the coin.

 

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Three dots? That's a funny grade. Come on, tell us what you were going to say, be honest.

 

MS64+ PL, I didn't see that the answer had already been revealed.

 

64 PL

 

Beautiful coin!! They got it exactly right, although it is close to 65+ PL.

 

Do you mind telling what you won it for on eBay? Also, how was it presented in the ad? As a DMPL? Good pictures? Just curious how much of a leap of faith you took. DMPL is so hard to judge on eBay.

 

I paid 600, so I took a big leap. But the pics in this particular listing were high quality, thats why the bid went up. Ebay is hit or miss, and so is NGC, so it's a gamble. The harder part is telling between PL and DPL, thats where I get burned by NGC. I sent in another one with this submission that had deeper fields than this one, but it had a little dull patch so they gave it PL. Overall, I pay a little more for some but get a great deal on some. And it sharpens your grading by pictures skills. But there are a lot of charlatans. They take purposely blurry pics or take them in natural light, really stupid stuff to try to fool people into paying twenty bucks more for a common date GSA. When something good comes up you have bidiots raising it to the moon, so I have to pass on some really nice looking ones. But this one looked easy to me, so I went for it.

 

Actually this submission I wrote down all the grades I thought I should get, and compared them with all the grades NGC gave them. Out of 17, they graded lower on six, the same as me on 7, and better than I thought on four. Definitely my best submission yet. This coin we both had the same grade.

 

This one got PL designation, so even with NGC its a crap shoot. Cue the people who say the dull patch kept it from DPL, but I have seen plenty DPLs with dull patches.

 

I agree with the PL on that one, and the DPL on the other one. The other is more consistently deep, based on the photographs posted. It isn't the patches-- I consider them irrelevant. I just see more depth and consistent depth on the other coin. Sure, I could be wrong, but that is how I see it. Both are great coins and worthy for a nice Morgan collection.

 

Sweet eBay pick.. I somehow missed this during the GTG. I was at 65 PL with a shot at 66 PL looking at the images. Nice job on the 65 DPL.

 

Thanks man. One day I'll find that 66 in the wild!

 

66 PL

 

You have been extremely close. I like your taste in PL and DPL CC coins. 66s are very hard, due to the storage issues, with the bag marks.

 

You will get there. It's not easy. I was very lucky in finding an 1882 that made 66. It was no where near a PL though. So hoping for a 66PL or 66DPL is going to be a tough journey.

I recently came across an 1885-CC that had just been opened from the original mailing box. It had mirrors you could shave with and frost that would make a snowman jealous. It would have been an easy 65 had it not had 3 large gouges across her cheek that looked like knife cuts. It was a shame to see those. The reverse was a lock 66. But those marks I'm sure doomed her to a 63 possibly a 62.

 

I find that most of my 66s and 67s have come from other sources than GSAs. The rough handling of the CC GSAs made for many contact marks, that just seem to preclude very high grades. Before encapsulated, some of the GSA horde coins were shoveled into boxes. I have three o mint 66s and a 67PL that have far fewer bag marks.