What will it grade? 1861 $2.5 gold

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  1. CommemHalfScrub

    CommemHalfScrub Active Member

    What do you guys think this beauty will grade out at?
    I apologize for the bad pictures. The coin is inside a flip and the pictures were off the cuff. IMG_8411.jpg IMG_8415.jpg
     
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  3. furham

    furham Good Ole Boy

  4. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    I'm wondering about the obverse splotches, and I'm also wondering if that's wear I see at the nose and the ear. I'm not confident it's MS based on this obverse photo. I have a solid track record of guessing wrong on gold, though.
     
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  5. Publius2

    Publius2 Well-Known Member

    I'm going with 63.
     
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  6. QuintupleSovereign

    QuintupleSovereign Well-Known Member

  7. Randy Abercrombie

    Randy Abercrombie Supporter! Supporter

    That is a well struck coin. My favorite coins are strikes like this. I am with @-jeffB though and do believe I see the slightest touch of wear on her nose and hair above the ear. And I mean just the slightest touch of wear... Either way, this is a beautiful coin.
     
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  8. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    I am concerned about the shiny area on the left side of the obverse. It is in front of the face of Ms. liberty and runs between the first and sixth stars. It looks like it has been polished or smoothed. If that is true, the coin will not get a straight grade. That sort of mixture of brightness and mint frost is not natural.
     
  9. mrweaseluv

    mrweaseluv Supporter! Supporter

    Looking at the chatter on the face and obverse fields i would say about an MS61-62 I would have probably gone 63-64 but that one dink on the reverse just NW of the beak, I think is gonna bring it down
     
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  10. mrweaseluv

    mrweaseluv Supporter! Supporter

    comparison.... Mine is only AU58 but most that have looked at it think it would regrade considerably higher.... Gold is tough to grade i see so much difference in grades between the different grading companies... this one being old anacs I'm pretty damn sure would grade higher in pcgs/ngc... 1.jpg 2.jpg 3.jpg
     
  11. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    Here is the piece in my collection. NGC called it an MS-62, but I am more in the AU-58 camp. It's called "market grading."

    1861 $250 O.jpg 1861 $250 R.jpg
     
  12. CommemHalfScrub

    CommemHalfScrub Active Member

    That is a result of my lighting and photo setup. In-person it appears original.
     
  13. CommemHalfScrub

    CommemHalfScrub Active Member

    Thanks for all your opinions! I, too am on the bubble between low MS and high AU. Gold is always difficult to grade. I will be sending it out this week and will update the thread with the results!
     
    Last edited: Jan 17, 2021
  14. micbraun

    micbraun coindiccted

    Good luck. I think any grade from AU-Details to MS 62 is a possibility. Are you going to send it to NGC or PCGS?
     
  15. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    I think you're looking at a AU grade. Gold is tough to grade and photos add to it.
     
  16. CommemHalfScrub

    CommemHalfScrub Active Member

    NGC
     
  17. Alexthegreat

    Alexthegreat Active Member

    Some wear/weakness, but probably too much luster for au58. My guess is ms61 :)
     
  18. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

  19. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    If a coin has any signs of wear it's not a MS coin.
     
  20. messydesk

    messydesk Well-Known Member

    From the pictures provided, my first guess is 62. Better pictures might or might not cause me to change my mind.
     
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  21. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder

    62 was my first impression.
     
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