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<p>[QUOTE="Troodon, post: 1636202, member: 4626"]Ah, but you put "eventually" in parentheses when that's actually the most important part of the sentence. Eventually doesn't do you much good if that's past your lifetime. Unless you hope it's going to spike due to a fad or optimistic speculation, in which case cash in quick before people quit caring. A coin is only worth what you can find a buyer to pay. Once there's fewer buyers than coins, the coin won't be valuable no matter how rare it is. For fun I look through 50 year old redbooks to see what some valuable rarities were worth then. It's amazing that, even adjusting for inflation, most of them were easily affordable. Hey great, if you hold on to it for 50 years you really got something. But then I'll be 86 if I'm even still alive. What good does that do me? And what if 50 years from now people decide they still don't want an Alice Paul coin or an S-minted quarter? What if collector interest actually goes down? (Hey how are those bicentennial quarters doing now?)</p><p><br /></p><p>OK, it's 1997. The mint puts out a $5 gold uncirculated Jackie Robinson commemorative. Not many people are buying them, maybe people don't like the design, think it's too expensive, the collector interest just isn't there. So the Mint only sells about 5000 of them and melt down the rest they minted. 16 years later the price goes way up, because now it's rare. Great, you can sell the ones you bought for a lot of money! Well except you didn't buy them, because 16 years ago you didn't care either.</p><p><br /></p><p>See where the problem lies? If people think it's going to be a good investment, people buy a lot of them, the Mint mints a lot of them, and then they don't go up much in value in the long run because they're too common. If nobody's buying them, the Mint doesn't sell many, they go up in value, but you don't have one.</p><p><br /></p><p>Or here's another analogy: Someone prints up a guide book for Disneyland that says Great Thunder Mountain Railroad has the shortest lines at 10 am so that's the perfect time to go. The book sells millions of copies. You go to that ride at 10am and there's a line all the way back to the parking lot. What happened? Everyone followed the same advice... which invalidated the advice. Moral of the story: if everyone's saying a given coin is a good investment, that's how you know it's not. Because if everyone's buying them it means everyone who wants them has them. Why is that 1997 Robinson unc. worth so much? Because 16 years ago nobody was saying to buy it. So think about that when everyone's saying, hey let's buy that Alice Paul coin, it will be valuable. Even if that ends up being true you won't be able to cash in on that sooner than about a generation. Great investment strategy in the LONG run (well unless everyone's doing it of course). But in the meantime you're spending your disposable income on coins nobody wants and have no money left for the coins you do want. You're not collecting in coins; you're speculating in them. Where's the fun in that?</p><p><br /></p><p>Am I just off base here? I just can't see the point in diverting disposable income to buy up coins nobody wants (and thus you probably don't either) just to get a bunch of money later when you're too old to enjoy it. Am I just that cynical? Maybe. 20 years from now you'll be richer than me but I'll enjoy my collection more. I can live with that.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Troodon, post: 1636202, member: 4626"]Ah, but you put "eventually" in parentheses when that's actually the most important part of the sentence. Eventually doesn't do you much good if that's past your lifetime. Unless you hope it's going to spike due to a fad or optimistic speculation, in which case cash in quick before people quit caring. A coin is only worth what you can find a buyer to pay. Once there's fewer buyers than coins, the coin won't be valuable no matter how rare it is. For fun I look through 50 year old redbooks to see what some valuable rarities were worth then. It's amazing that, even adjusting for inflation, most of them were easily affordable. Hey great, if you hold on to it for 50 years you really got something. But then I'll be 86 if I'm even still alive. What good does that do me? And what if 50 years from now people decide they still don't want an Alice Paul coin or an S-minted quarter? What if collector interest actually goes down? (Hey how are those bicentennial quarters doing now?) OK, it's 1997. The mint puts out a $5 gold uncirculated Jackie Robinson commemorative. Not many people are buying them, maybe people don't like the design, think it's too expensive, the collector interest just isn't there. So the Mint only sells about 5000 of them and melt down the rest they minted. 16 years later the price goes way up, because now it's rare. Great, you can sell the ones you bought for a lot of money! Well except you didn't buy them, because 16 years ago you didn't care either. See where the problem lies? If people think it's going to be a good investment, people buy a lot of them, the Mint mints a lot of them, and then they don't go up much in value in the long run because they're too common. If nobody's buying them, the Mint doesn't sell many, they go up in value, but you don't have one. Or here's another analogy: Someone prints up a guide book for Disneyland that says Great Thunder Mountain Railroad has the shortest lines at 10 am so that's the perfect time to go. The book sells millions of copies. You go to that ride at 10am and there's a line all the way back to the parking lot. What happened? Everyone followed the same advice... which invalidated the advice. Moral of the story: if everyone's saying a given coin is a good investment, that's how you know it's not. Because if everyone's buying them it means everyone who wants them has them. Why is that 1997 Robinson unc. worth so much? Because 16 years ago nobody was saying to buy it. So think about that when everyone's saying, hey let's buy that Alice Paul coin, it will be valuable. Even if that ends up being true you won't be able to cash in on that sooner than about a generation. Great investment strategy in the LONG run (well unless everyone's doing it of course). But in the meantime you're spending your disposable income on coins nobody wants and have no money left for the coins you do want. You're not collecting in coins; you're speculating in them. Where's the fun in that? Am I just off base here? I just can't see the point in diverting disposable income to buy up coins nobody wants (and thus you probably don't either) just to get a bunch of money later when you're too old to enjoy it. Am I just that cynical? Maybe. 20 years from now you'll be richer than me but I'll enjoy my collection more. I can live with that.[/QUOTE]
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