The only type of errors I know anything about is doubling, rpd, rpm's and those types. Not too familiar with the off-center and clip stuff. Any help telling me about these coins would be appreciated. 1st coin: 2nd coin:
First coin definately shows a doubled rim and appears to be struck off center. Second coin looks like someone took a grinder to it due to the raised area. Clip errors are usually smooth.
Ya know sometimes when you don't know what you are talking about it's best to just say nothing. For the first coin, how can you tell it's struck off center or if it's just a misaligned die without seeing the reverse? On the second coin that could very well be a clipped planchet. It's hard to tell from the fuzzy pics. But since you determined it was PMD the OP probably went and spent what could have been a couple dollar coin because of bad advice.:rollling:
Hey man there's no need to go on the attack on the other guy. Seems to me he was just trying to help. Plus these are just coins I found roll searching.
Wasn't trying to be mean, it just irks me when someone puts out wrong info and someone accepts it as fact. Especially on two types of errors that have a ton of info on the web that can be found with a minimum of searching. For clipped planchet errors just google Blaksley effect. For offcenter strikes and misaligned dies the search is self explanitory.
No need to argue but I understand what d.t. means. Oh and by the way, the first coin is not an off center. It is actually a broad strike. There is a difference between both. The other coin is a straight clip to be more specific.
1st coin looks like rim doubling or broadstruck, 2nd coin looks like a clip but I don't think it's a genuine clip due to the fact it looks to jagged.
Ya know dt I just got into this error and variety stuff but for someone who don't know what he's talking about sure owns a very successful grading service!...All opinion's welcomed I thought, maybe we all can learn something to!
The first coin could be either a Misaligned die, or an uncentered broadstrike. I lean toward the misaligned die because it is about a hundred times more common and the coin still appears to be round. The second coin is an incomplete planchet or a clipped planchet. It appears to be a straight clip.
Looks like the first coin has been double-struck in the collar. On the second coin I see no flaws. -Brian
The photos are not the best (especially of the reverse where the area in question is shaded) but a portion of the coin is missing at 12:00 on the obverse (6:00 on the reverse). Whether it is a genuine clip or PMD (cut after it left the Mint) cannot be determined from those photos.
I agree with this answer completely. Early 80's cents are commonly found with misaligned dies. The second coin looks to be a genuine clip.
