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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Conder101, post: 490833, member: 66&quot;]Don&#039;t be so quick to condemn the sale of this counterfeit.&nbsp; The British and American counterfeits of this medal had an important propaganda purpose before and during the first world war and&nbsp; are important historical artifacts in their own right.&nbsp; Some counterfeits inhabit a &quot;gray area&quot; which make them collectible and sometimes highly valuable pieces. For example a counterfeit 1742 gold doubloon from the Lima mint that was made by a neighbor of George Washington.&nbsp; It is unique and has sold for a couple 600K dollars&nbsp; The guy later made some more doubloons with his own design on them.&nbsp; We know the counterfeiter as Ephaim Brasher.&nbsp; Would you send the principals of Heritage to jail for selling that counterfeit?</p><p><br /></p><p>A counterfeit has to be looked upon and evaluated based on it&#039;s intended purpose.&nbsp; Contemporary counterfeits intended to circulate at the time are and should be viewed differently than counterfeits made at a later date specifically for the purpose of cheating collectors.&nbsp; And in the case of this medal the British counterfeits were made to try and prove that the Germans had deliberately planned to sink the ship because the medal was dated two days before the date the ship was actually sunk.&nbsp; (The German medal was it&#039;s own propaganda against the British showing that they were sending their own people to their deaths by selling passenger tickets to people for ships carrying war materials that were legitimate military targets.&nbsp; If I was collecting this medal, and I have considered it, I would want examples of the original error German medal, the corrected version with the proper date, and one of the &quot;counterfeit&quot; British and/or American propaganda pieces.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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