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<p>[QUOTE="Insider, post: 7883158, member: 24314"]<span style="color: #660033">Kentucky, posted: "I'm guessing because it was circulated...in your pocket. Now, if you put it in a flip and carried it, it's still uncirculated...no wear (friction)."</span></p><p><i><br /></i></p><p><i>Uncirculated has always been a misleading term. Coins CAN?AND DO circulate yet show absolutely no trade of friction wear. I have personally seen extreme examples of this obvious impossibility. </i></p><p><br /></p><p>[USER=22331]@imrich[/USER] <i>Please cut the snark, get out of the courtroom, open your mind, and you just might learn something.</i></p><p><i><br /></i></p><p><i>Coin grading is an art with two completely different approaches. You can describe a coin's actual and unique state of preservation (<b><span style="color: #b30000">true </span></b>technical grading that 99% of numismatists who have not been "schooled" don't understand) or you can appraise its value (modern commercial grading). No matter what anyone tells you, the two are completely different and not compatible. One choice is very subjective with more variables than I care to expand on here requiring years of experience and a knowledge of the day to day, year to year coin market (that most posting here INCLUDING ME don't have). The other is extremely easy to do with good eyesight and a knowledge of coin examination techniques. </i></p><p><i><br /></i></p><p><i>Unfortunately, it does not benefit dealers if 95% of collectors/dealers could agree on a grade for the same coin 95% of the time! They wish to keep grading complicated with wiggle room. </i></p><p><i><br /></i></p><p><i>If coin's were graded strictly by what they are and dealers priced them based on that we would only be arguing on the price 95% of the time and not the grade! <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie7" alt=":p" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></i></p><p><i><br /></i></p><p><i>BTW, I'm not a commercial coin grader and cannot ever be! I just grade them as I see them. </i></p><p><i><br /></i></p><p><i>PS I'll bet most of the court decisions you cite were for blatant over grading and coin doctoring. Otherwise, name the case so I CAN LEARN SOMETHING from you.</i>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Insider, post: 7883158, member: 24314"][COLOR=#660033]Kentucky, posted: "I'm guessing because it was circulated...in your pocket. Now, if you put it in a flip and carried it, it's still uncirculated...no wear (friction)."[/COLOR] [I] Uncirculated has always been a misleading term. Coins CAN?AND DO circulate yet show absolutely no trade of friction wear. I have personally seen extreme examples of this obvious impossibility. [/I] [USER=22331]@imrich[/USER] [I]Please cut the snark, get out of the courtroom, open your mind, and you just might learn something. Coin grading is an art with two completely different approaches. You can describe a coin's actual and unique state of preservation ([B][COLOR=#b30000]true [/COLOR][/B]technical grading that 99% of numismatists who have not been "schooled" don't understand) or you can appraise its value (modern commercial grading). No matter what anyone tells you, the two are completely different and not compatible. One choice is very subjective with more variables than I care to expand on here requiring years of experience and a knowledge of the day to day, year to year coin market (that most posting here INCLUDING ME don't have). The other is extremely easy to do with good eyesight and a knowledge of coin examination techniques. Unfortunately, it does not benefit dealers if 95% of collectors/dealers could agree on a grade for the same coin 95% of the time! They wish to keep grading complicated with wiggle room. If coin's were graded strictly by what they are and dealers priced them based on that we would only be arguing on the price 95% of the time and not the grade! :p BTW, I'm not a commercial coin grader and cannot ever be! I just grade them as I see them. PS I'll bet most of the court decisions you cite were for blatant over grading and coin doctoring. Otherwise, name the case so I CAN LEARN SOMETHING from you.[/I][/QUOTE]
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