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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Insider, post: 7856441, member: 24314&quot;]Jaelus, posted: &quot;Ok so let me clarify. I&#039;m saying wear must be nondeterminitive of grade, [<i><span style="color: rgb(102, 0, 51)">Since when?&nbsp; Better: Wear must be nondeterminative of MS grades.&nbsp; That&#039;s because MS coins SHOULD NOT HAVE FRICTION WEAR!]</span></i> because wear based grading is <i>never</i> as useful [<span style="color: rgb(102, 0, 51)"><i>to whom</i></span>?] as market grading in every real world application. I&#039;m not saying you don&#039;t need to know the amount of wear on a coin in order to produce the grade, I&#039;m saying you don&#039;t need a grade produced solely from the level of wear on a coin. [<i><span style="color: rgb(102, 0, 51)">True for a MS coin but the amount of wear determines non-MS grades</span></i>].Just as you need to have awareness of hits on a coin, but you don&#039;t need to produce a hit-based grade. [<i><span style="color: rgb(102, 0, 51)">Since the # of hits is one of the major determinations for assigning a MS grade, I think most of us do use a hit-based system similar to one in the ANA grading Guide</span></i>] It is only one part of what describes the quality of a coin. [<i><span style="color: rgb(102, 0, 51)">True, especially for MS coins</span></i>] A holistic quality [<i><span style="color: rgb(102, 0, 51)">??]</span></i> based grade where wear is a factor but in and of itself is nondeterminative of grade will always be superior.&quot; [<i><span style="color: rgb(102, 0, 51)">True, as long as the actual condition of the coin does not matter to a buyer.&nbsp; Using your reasoning is why certain very rare and desirable coins that were once graded XF+ and AU are now considered to be MS. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie3" alt=":(" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></span></i>].</p><p><br /></p><p>And let me clarify...I could play the AU = MS game with the best of them but I don&#039;t have to.&nbsp; As long as folks understand the game, I&#039;m extremely happy.&nbsp; I admire a professional dealer/knowledgeable collector/seminar instructor who can look at a coin, understand why and point out that it is an AU and then explain what it should be graded in the coin market. Many times in 2021, that will be MS-Something. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>I don&#039;t admire someone who thinks an AU coin is an undergraded conservative mistake because the amount of friction wear on it is not as important as its eye appeal.</p><p><br /></p><p>PS&nbsp; Hope you&#039;ll continue to comment as I reply to your original post.&nbsp; I already have more &quot;meat&quot; for another grading column.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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