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<p>[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 989346, member: 19463"]That is a nice one (sorry it is not yours). <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie2" alt=";)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> Note that heroic busts are usually confined to a few Roman emperors who favored the type. Crispus is one but the military busts of his father and brothers tend to be overdressed to get the term. Hadrian has a lot of bare chested busts usually called heroic even though they do not have the weapon. Caracalla has a few on provincials but not Roman denominations. Probus, who has more variant busts than anyone, has a few I'd call heroic but many more that appear to be static poses in armor. Bare chest or with an animal skin over the shoulder looks heroic. It is up to each of us to decide where we accept the term and where it is pushing the matter. I'm not sure I would call any shirtless coin heroic but, to me, the term implies showing up for battle minus a full suit of armor. A problem comes on some when a little wear makes it hard to tell if we are seeing skin or armor. I'll add a Probus that is pretty certainly skin and, therefore, heroic but the vast majority of his are in full armor.</p><p> </p><p>Except for Hadrian (whose weaponless heroic busts are pushing the term a bit) the vast majority of heroic busts will face left. I'll put out the challenge to show a right facing heroic bust that includes a weapon and bare skin. I don't have one.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 989346, member: 19463"]That is a nice one (sorry it is not yours). ;) Note that heroic busts are usually confined to a few Roman emperors who favored the type. Crispus is one but the military busts of his father and brothers tend to be overdressed to get the term. Hadrian has a lot of bare chested busts usually called heroic even though they do not have the weapon. Caracalla has a few on provincials but not Roman denominations. Probus, who has more variant busts than anyone, has a few I'd call heroic but many more that appear to be static poses in armor. Bare chest or with an animal skin over the shoulder looks heroic. It is up to each of us to decide where we accept the term and where it is pushing the matter. I'm not sure I would call any shirtless coin heroic but, to me, the term implies showing up for battle minus a full suit of armor. A problem comes on some when a little wear makes it hard to tell if we are seeing skin or armor. I'll add a Probus that is pretty certainly skin and, therefore, heroic but the vast majority of his are in full armor. Except for Hadrian (whose weaponless heroic busts are pushing the term a bit) the vast majority of heroic busts will face left. I'll put out the challenge to show a right facing heroic bust that includes a weapon and bare skin. I don't have one.[/QUOTE]
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