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<p>[QUOTE="Deedlebomber1963, post: 3254168, member: 99758"]I am also very new at all this but it sounds kinda like something I found - </p><p><b>PART IV. Die Errors: Clashed Die or Die Clash</b></p><p><br /></p><p><b>Definition: </b>This mishap occurs when opposing dies collide with each other when a <a href="http://www.error-ref.com/blank-or-planchet/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.error-ref.com/blank-or-planchet/" rel="nofollow">planchet</a>fails to be fed into the striking chamber. Most complete planchet misfeeds don’t result in clashed dies because dies normally don’t touch each other in the absence of a planchet. The dies operate with a safety margin that can be referred to as minimum die clearance or minimum die distance. These terms refer to the closest approach the dies make to each other in the absence of a planchet. In order for dies to clash, the dies must have fallen out of adjustment so that their minimum clearance is zero (or less than zero).</p><p><br /></p><p>For more information on clashed dies, visit this site: click<a href="http://www.maddieclashes.com/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.maddieclashes.com/" rel="nofollow">HERE.</a></p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/file:///C:/Users/dschmitt/AppData/Local/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image002.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/file:///C:/Users/dschmitt/AppData/Local/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image004.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p><b>Part IV. Die Errors: Die Clash: Clash Marks</b></p><p><br /></p><p><b>Definition:</b> Clash marks are the impressions left on each die after a <a href="http://www.error-ref.com/die_clash/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.error-ref.com/die_clash/" rel="nofollow">die clash</a>. Part of the design of each die is transferred to the opposing die when they hit into each other. The transferred design elements are raised and normally-oriented on the die face. Therefore, any coin that is struck will show extra design elements that are incuse (sunken) and mirror-image. The field area of the die is most likely to pick up clash marks because this part of die face is farthest in front. Shallow recesses on the die face (corresponding to low-relief areas on the coin) can also pick up clash marks. Deep recesses are generally protected from even the strongest clashes. The periphery of each die face will normally be free of clash marks in most instances due to die convexity. Each die face bulges out ever-so-slightly, and the convexity is strongest at the periphery. Since opposing surfaces are curving away from each other, there is little opportunity for contact.</p><p><br /></p><p>Below is a 1987 Lincoln cent with clash marks from the reverse (sometimes called a “prisoner cent”) and a 1979 Jefferson nickel with clash marks from the obverse.</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://file:///C:/Users/dschmitt/AppData/Local/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image006.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /> <img src="http://file:///C:/Users/dschmitt/AppData/Local/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image008.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /> </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><b>PART IV. Die Errors: Die Clash:</b></p><p><br /></p><p><b>Chatter Clash (multiple staggered clash marks)</b></p><p><br /></p><p><b>Definition: </b>A chatter clash is defined by the presence of multiple sets of closely-spaced clash marks. They are generated when a pair of dies collides multiple times, with slight lateral movement of the hammer die between each strike. Multiple sets of very light clash marks can also be produced by die bounce. A loose, jittery die can collide with its counterpart and vibrate during the impact, producing two or more sets of clash marks.</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/file:///C:/Users/dschmitt/AppData/Local/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image010.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/file:///C:/Users/dschmitt/AppData/Local/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image012.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/file:///C:/Users/dschmitt/AppData/Local/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image014.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/file:///C:/Users/dschmitt/AppData/Local/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image016.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>A very strong chatter clash is seen on this 2000-P Jefferson nickel. It has an estimated five sets of clash marks.</p><p><br /></p><p>This 1998 cent was struck by a hammer die that was horizontally misaligned toward the northwest. Both faces show at least five sets of overlapping clash marks. Evidently, the obverse (hammer) die shifted slightly toward the northwest after each clash. We have encountered at three other cents struck by this same die pair that show an identical level of misalignment. It seems that the hammer die stabilized in this position for a number of strikes.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Top of Form[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Deedlebomber1963, post: 3254168, member: 99758"]I am also very new at all this but it sounds kinda like something I found - [B]PART IV. Die Errors: Clashed Die or Die Clash[/B] [B]Definition: [/B]This mishap occurs when opposing dies collide with each other when a [URL='http://www.error-ref.com/blank-or-planchet/']planchet[/URL]fails to be fed into the striking chamber. Most complete planchet misfeeds don’t result in clashed dies because dies normally don’t touch each other in the absence of a planchet. The dies operate with a safety margin that can be referred to as minimum die clearance or minimum die distance. These terms refer to the closest approach the dies make to each other in the absence of a planchet. In order for dies to clash, the dies must have fallen out of adjustment so that their minimum clearance is zero (or less than zero). For more information on clashed dies, visit this site: click[URL='http://www.maddieclashes.com/']HERE.[/URL] [IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/file:///C:/Users/dschmitt/AppData/Local/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image002.jpg[/IMG][IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/file:///C:/Users/dschmitt/AppData/Local/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image004.jpg[/IMG] [B]Part IV. Die Errors: Die Clash: Clash Marks[/B] [B]Definition:[/B] Clash marks are the impressions left on each die after a [URL='http://www.error-ref.com/die_clash/']die clash[/URL]. Part of the design of each die is transferred to the opposing die when they hit into each other. The transferred design elements are raised and normally-oriented on the die face. Therefore, any coin that is struck will show extra design elements that are incuse (sunken) and mirror-image. The field area of the die is most likely to pick up clash marks because this part of die face is farthest in front. Shallow recesses on the die face (corresponding to low-relief areas on the coin) can also pick up clash marks. Deep recesses are generally protected from even the strongest clashes. The periphery of each die face will normally be free of clash marks in most instances due to die convexity. Each die face bulges out ever-so-slightly, and the convexity is strongest at the periphery. Since opposing surfaces are curving away from each other, there is little opportunity for contact. Below is a 1987 Lincoln cent with clash marks from the reverse (sometimes called a “prisoner cent”) and a 1979 Jefferson nickel with clash marks from the obverse. [IMG]http://file:///C:/Users/dschmitt/AppData/Local/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image006.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://file:///C:/Users/dschmitt/AppData/Local/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image008.jpg[/IMG] [B]PART IV. Die Errors: Die Clash:[/B] [B]Chatter Clash (multiple staggered clash marks)[/B] [B]Definition: [/B]A chatter clash is defined by the presence of multiple sets of closely-spaced clash marks. They are generated when a pair of dies collides multiple times, with slight lateral movement of the hammer die between each strike. Multiple sets of very light clash marks can also be produced by die bounce. A loose, jittery die can collide with its counterpart and vibrate during the impact, producing two or more sets of clash marks. [IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/file:///C:/Users/dschmitt/AppData/Local/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image010.jpg[/IMG][IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/file:///C:/Users/dschmitt/AppData/Local/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image012.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/file:///C:/Users/dschmitt/AppData/Local/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image014.jpg[/IMG][IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/file:///C:/Users/dschmitt/AppData/Local/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image016.jpg[/IMG] A very strong chatter clash is seen on this 2000-P Jefferson nickel. It has an estimated five sets of clash marks. This 1998 cent was struck by a hammer die that was horizontally misaligned toward the northwest. Both faces show at least five sets of overlapping clash marks. Evidently, the obverse (hammer) die shifted slightly toward the northwest after each clash. We have encountered at three other cents struck by this same die pair that show an identical level of misalignment. It seems that the hammer die stabilized in this position for a number of strikes. Top of Form[/QUOTE]
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