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<p>[QUOTE="lordmarcovan, post: 2948664, member: 10461"]"MS" stands for <i>Mint State</i>. This is for <i>business strike</i> coins; in other words, coins that were made to be used in circulation, with no special care taken by the mint in creating them.</p><p><br /></p><p>"PR" stands for <i>Proof</i>. "Proof" is not really a grade; it is a method of manufacture. A proof coin is specially made as a presentation piece or for collectors. It is struck on a polished blank, with greater pressure, and is made to much higher quality standards than a business strike. Since Proof coins are inherently nicer by their very nature, a high grade like PR68 or PR69 and such is not uncommon.</p><p><br /></p><p>But on a <i>business strike</i> coin, the higher Mint State grades (MS67, -68, -69, etc) are much less common and even rare in some cases, since these coins were not made with any special care, and were just intended to go into circulation.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>No, not really. Since "MS" means "Mint State", it implies that it is a (business strike) coin that has remained in the same condition as it was when it left the mint. This typically means no wear from circulation. However, the coin might in fact <i>have</i> actually circulated, but not enough to cause any wear. A Mint State coin can have some contact marks, but no wear.</p><p><br /></p><p>This is the problem with the older (and slightly confusing) "Uncirculated" terminology, and the reason (I think) that the modern grading services adopted the "Mint State" term instead. You see, you can pull a Mint State coin out of circulation, if you get to it before it's had any wear.</p><p><br /></p><p>Does any of that make sense?[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="lordmarcovan, post: 2948664, member: 10461"]"MS" stands for [I]Mint State[/I]. This is for [I]business strike[/I] coins; in other words, coins that were made to be used in circulation, with no special care taken by the mint in creating them. "PR" stands for [I]Proof[/I]. "Proof" is not really a grade; it is a method of manufacture. A proof coin is specially made as a presentation piece or for collectors. It is struck on a polished blank, with greater pressure, and is made to much higher quality standards than a business strike. Since Proof coins are inherently nicer by their very nature, a high grade like PR68 or PR69 and such is not uncommon. But on a [I]business strike[/I] coin, the higher Mint State grades (MS67, -68, -69, etc) are much less common and even rare in some cases, since these coins were not made with any special care, and were just intended to go into circulation. No, not really. Since "MS" means "Mint State", it implies that it is a (business strike) coin that has remained in the same condition as it was when it left the mint. This typically means no wear from circulation. However, the coin might in fact [I]have[/I] actually circulated, but not enough to cause any wear. A Mint State coin can have some contact marks, but no wear. This is the problem with the older (and slightly confusing) "Uncirculated" terminology, and the reason (I think) that the modern grading services adopted the "Mint State" term instead. You see, you can pull a Mint State coin out of circulation, if you get to it before it's had any wear. Does any of that make sense?[/QUOTE]
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