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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;lordmarcovan, post: 2947614, member: 10461&quot;]I&#039;ve never had an older MS68 or MS69 coin.&nbsp; Most of my modern stuff (where I&#039;ve had 68- or 69-graded coins) has been proofs, so PR68 or PR69 (and usually DCAM), but I realize that doesn&#039;t count.</p><p><br /></p><p>For numerically-graded, TPG certified coins in MS, not proof, I think this 1866 German States/Hesse-Darmstadt kreuzer, <a href="https://www.pcgs.com/cert/32089337" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.pcgs.com/cert/32089337" rel="nofollow">PCGS MS67+</a>, is the highest grade I&#039;ve earned and owned on a non-modern coin, and my earliest &quot;supergrade&quot; coin owned to date.</p><p><br /></p><p>As of this post, it remains the highest graded at PCGS, and is probably the finest at either service (I haven&#039;t checked the NGC pops).</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://www.ngccoin.com/boards/applications/core/interface/imageproxy/imageproxy.php?img=http://images.pcgs.com/TrueView/32089337_large.jpg&amp;key=70c65451abeb90b1754ebc767d9f7de0a30e7599b3b17f765fd9d3b73f310d5a" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>It used to be in an NGC MS67 holder.&nbsp; I cracked it and sent it to PCGS and gained the &quot;plus&quot; (+).</p><p><br /></p><p>So it became PCGS MS67+ as seen above; in other words a slight upgrade.</p><p><br /></p><p>I sold it a few years ago, but enjoyed owning it for a little while.&nbsp; It was a nice buy for me when I originally got it for less than a hundred bucks in the NGC holder.</p><p><br /></p><p>Below is the &quot;before&quot; picture in the earlier NGC slab.&nbsp; Though not technically a proof, it was very prooflike.</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k173/lordmarcovan/Germany-Hesse-Darmstadt-1K-1866-010600-slab2.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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