What is wrong with this one?

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  1. Augustine1992

    Augustine1992 Member

    looks good to me, its even got woody characteristics
     
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  3. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Quite possible they think wood grain effect was artificially applied to the coin. It's not as uncommon as you might think.
     
  4. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    If it is, it sure has me by the shorts.
     
  5. GregBnCoins

    GregBnCoins Member

    Questionable color/ scratch or rim damage
     
  6. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    On a Large Cent, I would describe it as microscopic porosity. What others call bevelled planchet, I call thin planchet. I have a 1866 with this among several errors.
     
  7. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    Problem with that analysis is that it is not porous and 90+% of the planchet is not thin.
     
  8. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

    More of the classic TPG cop-out crap. They just don't want it in a PCGS holder, it is definately NOT artificially colored. I've seen it plenty of times. The 1920-S is a tough coin in mint state....99% of them look like crap, like they've been cleaned and retoned. That's just the nature of the issue due to the planchets/processes they used. I've turned down every MS 20-S I've seen because they are so nasty looking, slabbed or not. They just have the look most Lincoln collectors reject and I don't want to be stuck holding the bag on one because they are not cheap.
     
  9. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

    I should add again....your 20-S is actually VERY nice compared to the others I've seen. Can you see any luster on it? I would have broken it out of that body bag slab within 5 minutes of getting it. LOL
     
  10. Coinguy56

    Coinguy56 Member

    The first thing I thought of when I saw the pictures is questionable color.
     
  11. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    It has some luster. I have actually been rather lucky after it took me forever to get my first 20-S. I was a well struck PCGS 63BN you have seen in guess the grade. However, I got this one for <$30. The pictures make it look a bit weaker than it actually is. I would call it 62, BION.
     

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  12. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    My favorite by far is this one. I think they net graded it. My guess is that this coin has been wiped, but it is still a pretty coin and well struck.
     

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  13. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

    Agree, the ICG one is outstanding for the issue and it has some color!
     
  14. thecoinczar

    thecoinczar Member

    There is nothing wrong with your cent except for the fact that it was struck on a defective planchet. The strike is actually very good and I compliment your good eye for the unusual.
     
  15. SirCharlie

    SirCharlie Chuck

    I didn't really know where to post this, then remembered rlm posting about the characteristics of his 1920-S Lincoln.

    I found this one on eBay and wondered if anyone had ever seen anything like this: Item 110747766644
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Error-Bad-B...44?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item19c914cf74

    It didn't look like a lamination issue to me. I wonder if someone would have taken a saw to it, or maybe it's something I have just never seen.
     
  16. ikandiggit

    ikandiggit Currency Error Collector

    It looks to be a former retained struck through where the material has either been removed or fallen out.

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  17. SirCharlie

    SirCharlie Chuck

    Are you saying that part of another coin came down and struck it, and then that piece came out? It's hard to tell from a picture, but it does appear to be about the width of another cent.
     
  18. ikandiggit

    ikandiggit Currency Error Collector

    Struck through items can range from pieces of thread to bits of metal to grease and much more. These items are struck between the planchet and the press. These items can become inbedded and then fall out at a later date or in the case of the coin I posted, it was still present. Here's another example with is struck through a piece of wire:

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    This one is struck through compressed debris which happened to fall out of a die:

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  19. lkeigwin

    lkeigwin Well-Known Member

    If so, it's the biggest struck through I've ever seen.

    Looks like a nice a clean cut.

    I'd guess PMD but no theory to offer. The current auction bid of six cents seems about right.
    Lance.
     
  20. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    I was going to say grease filled , but that wouldn't account for the color .
     
  21. phdunay

    phdunay Member

    Umm its struck thru grease
     
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