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<p>[QUOTE="Insider, post: 7608708, member: 24314"]<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie11" alt=":rolleyes:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie15" alt=":arghh:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie20" alt=":banghead:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie20" alt=":banghead:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie20" alt=":banghead:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie23" alt=":bigtears:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie23" alt=":bigtears:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie23" alt=":bigtears:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie23" alt=":bigtears:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie23" alt=":bigtears:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> </p><p><br /></p><p><span style="color: #b30000"><b>THE UNADULTERATED <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie93" alt=":troll:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> TRUTH HURTS DEPT</b>:</span></p><p><br /></p><p><span style="color: #660033">Marshall, posted <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie26" alt=":bookworm:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie33" alt=":cigar:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />: "I hate snobbish behavior. They would hate my pitiful collection. They are not worthy of having such a special coin."</span></p><p><br /></p><p>"They" (Professional GOLD COIN DEALERS) make a living buying and selling RARE & DESIRABLE coins such as this. AFAIK, you don't. I find NOTHING incorrect or snobbish about their answer. This is a VERY special coin BECAUSE it a coin that would be EXTREMELY HARD to sell at a decent price which is: Whatever a person pays when they cannot find one in better condition.</p><p><br /></p><p><span style="color: #ff0080">johnmilton, posted: "I am glad this coin has not fallen apart after 168 years. I agree that the planchet issue is probably a pre-strike lamination, but to listen him <b>it would better if it had been whizzed."</b></span></p><p><br /></p><p>This post just broke into my top ten, all-time ____________ posts I've ever read on CT! However, congratulations you have actually stumbled into the "<b>nut</b>." Since the problem on this coin is easily seen/felt by anyone including the blind man, a whizzed coin would be much easier to sell! This fact will not get you off my top ten because I had to explain the reason. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> </p><p><br /></p><p><span style="color: #006600">The Gold Monger, posted: "My first reaction is about the grading as well and why isn't this taken into account? Do CUD's, PMD's (I assume any post damage would highly effect grading/value), etc., figure into the grading?</span> </p><p><br /></p><p>I cannot answer for any one else with certainty; however, many graders I know grade an error coin as if it were normal and then mention the error. For example, I have graded Lincoln cents with cuds as high as MS-67, Red.the coin</p><p><br /></p><p><span style="color: #b30000">ksparrow, posted: "Calling one of these with a pcgs pop of only about 120 an "expensive hole filler" because of a mint made flaw is way off base. I'd be proud to have it in my collection." </span></p><p><br /></p><p>Any "normal" collector would be proud to own this coin. I would happily put it into my teaching set and watch its price climb over the decades. HOWEVER, the "BIG BOYS" frown on coins as this and would pass - probably even at a lowball price. A person below their means might think they are off-base. I prefer to think that all of us have different personal standards for what we purchase. </p><p><br /></p><p><b><i><span style="color: #660000"><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie26" alt=":bookworm:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie33" alt=":cigar:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> Marshall, posted: "Traditionally, coins with mint damage are treated very differently than coins with Post mint damage. They often have a premium in common and modern coins. Post mint damage is treated quite severely."</span></i></b></p><p><br /></p><p>Very well said! </p><p><br /></p><p><span style="color: #660000">"I don't mind preference since I like detail over wear which is not reflected in pricing. But to single out this beauty <span style="color: #000000">[???<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie96" alt=":vomit:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />???]</span> for mint damage like it has PMD is beyond my understanding." </span></p><p><span style="color: #660000"><br /></span></p><p><span style="color: #660000"><span style="color: #000000">IMO, he rest you posted is nonsense (I'm glad you took the time to post anyway)and has nothing to do with the professionals who gave an opinion that I happen to agree with BECAUSE I understand REALITY.</span> <span style="color: #000000">Therefore, while we all have our personal opinion of "beauty," it may be wise to develop an "eye" more in line with folks who know the value of coins.</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #660000"><br /></span></p><p><span style="color: #660000"></span>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Insider, post: 7608708, member: 24314"]:rolleyes::arghh::banghead::banghead::banghead::bigtears::bigtears::bigtears::bigtears::bigtears: [COLOR=#b30000][B]THE UNADULTERATED :troll: TRUTH HURTS DEPT[/B]:[/COLOR] [COLOR=#660033]Marshall, posted :bookworm::cigar:: "I hate snobbish behavior. They would hate my pitiful collection. They are not worthy of having such a special coin."[/COLOR] "They" (Professional GOLD COIN DEALERS) make a living buying and selling RARE & DESIRABLE coins such as this. AFAIK, you don't. I find NOTHING incorrect or snobbish about their answer. This is a VERY special coin BECAUSE it a coin that would be EXTREMELY HARD to sell at a decent price which is: Whatever a person pays when they cannot find one in better condition. [COLOR=#ff0080]johnmilton, posted: "I am glad this coin has not fallen apart after 168 years. I agree that the planchet issue is probably a pre-strike lamination, but to listen him [B]it would better if it had been whizzed."[/B][/COLOR] This post just broke into my top ten, all-time ____________ posts I've ever read on CT! However, congratulations you have actually stumbled into the "[B]nut[/B]." Since the problem on this coin is easily seen/felt by anyone including the blind man, a whizzed coin would be much easier to sell! This fact will not get you off my top ten because I had to explain the reason. :D [COLOR=#006600]The Gold Monger, posted: "My first reaction is about the grading as well and why isn't this taken into account? Do CUD's, PMD's (I assume any post damage would highly effect grading/value), etc., figure into the grading?[/COLOR] I cannot answer for any one else with certainty; however, many graders I know grade an error coin as if it were normal and then mention the error. For example, I have graded Lincoln cents with cuds as high as MS-67, Red.the coin [COLOR=#b30000]ksparrow, posted: "Calling one of these with a pcgs pop of only about 120 an "expensive hole filler" because of a mint made flaw is way off base. I'd be proud to have it in my collection." [/COLOR] Any "normal" collector would be proud to own this coin. I would happily put it into my teaching set and watch its price climb over the decades. HOWEVER, the "BIG BOYS" frown on coins as this and would pass - probably even at a lowball price. A person below their means might think they are off-base. I prefer to think that all of us have different personal standards for what we purchase. [B][I][COLOR=#660000]:bookworm::cigar: Marshall, posted: "Traditionally, coins with mint damage are treated very differently than coins with Post mint damage. They often have a premium in common and modern coins. Post mint damage is treated quite severely."[/COLOR][/I][/B] Very well said! [COLOR=#660000]"I don't mind preference since I like detail over wear which is not reflected in pricing. But to single out this beauty [COLOR=#000000][???:vomit:???][/COLOR] for mint damage like it has PMD is beyond my understanding." [/COLOR] [COLOR=#660000] [COLOR=#000000]IMO, he rest you posted is nonsense (I'm glad you took the time to post anyway)and has nothing to do with the professionals who gave an opinion that I happen to agree with BECAUSE I understand REALITY.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000]Therefore, while we all have our personal opinion of "beauty," it may be wise to develop an "eye" more in line with folks who know the value of coins.[/COLOR][/COLOR] [COLOR=#660000] [/COLOR][/QUOTE]
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