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What error(s) do you see?

 

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i'm taking pic's right now.. give me a few min's to post them...

 

one end shows the die crack/chip (not sure which one it's called) on the "E" like the previous error i found and the other end shows a die crack/chip error on the last set of windows on the building at the bottom..
(this is my fourth "E" error i've found so far). hope you can see the errors good in the pic's..

 

Those types of die breaks and cracks are so common (especially on 2009s) I personally just ignore them and focus on trying to find a variety (of which I have only found one on the PL series).

 

have a picture of the one you have? please post it i would love to see it!

 

It's the one I had attributed a few weeks ago and added to everyone's files: 2009 PL CDDR-002, WDDR-002, 1DR-070 (CONECA DDR-001). There is a portion of the 4th column doubled over the upper third bay windows.

 

If that were the case wouldn't that gouge be raised?

I'd just say post mint damage.

 

awesome! i found this one also, any insight on whether or not very common? (windows at bottom missing)

 

The prevailing thought on missing PL windows is over-polished dies but it could also be an incomplete hubbing (but unlikely) - either way they are, like many of the errors, pretty common...

 

crustycoins, it is raised..

 

Interpreting others photos can be difficult. I had seen it as raised and was agreeing with Joe that it was a die break. If it is raised it is either a break, part of a crack or a weird gouge.

 

it is a nice clump of metal sitting on top!
i have one that has a gouge on the obverse and reverse. i'm assuming that's called a die gouge right? some are calling it a lamination error so that still confuses me... arrrrggghh, i'm learning though..
what's the difference between a gouge and a lamination error?

 

A gouge is literally a gouge (or indention) in the die that appears raised on struck coins. They can be caused by just about anything banging or brushing up against the face of the die at the Mint. A lamination error is an issue with contaminants in the metal or plating where the coin starts peeling, cracking or flaking.

Diagnosing from photos is difficult and I can understand disagreement. Shooting pictures of errors and varieties is hard and it takes time to take shots that convey a sense of what the collector is seeing.

As I didn't see your other thread I cannot have an opinion on the error you mention. Can you provide a link?

 

i haven't posted anything about it yet, i was just reading around and trying to decide which i might have. reading around some are calling their coins lamination errors and in my opinion i think they have a gouge. i really think mine may be a gouge. it is definitly an indention/missing metal. take a look: (the last photo is a close up).

 

A gouge will show as raised metal on the coin, not an indention (it will reflect the opposite of the indention in the die). What you have is a struck through. It is likely caused by a viscus material (like grease) being on the die face when the coin was struck.

John Wexler has some photographed on his site: http://doubleddie.com/1936.html

 

lol.. i have A LOT to learn
i went to the link you provided and yes, i agree it's a struck through error. you're a peach! thanks so much for your help!

Penny

 

As was explained before a gouge would not show up on the coin as an indent, the gouge would be in the die, therefore it would be reverse of the die on the coin.

 

They are often this way move on to another box/roll

They are often this way move on to another box/roll - it changes sometimes you get these sometimes you get the good stuff.
People that know this well appreciate the coins that are truly gems.
Or to put it another way, "a BU roll or box does not a BU coin make"!