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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Larry Moran, post: 539517, member: 4580&quot;]Well the owner, a friend, thinks it&#039;s a matte proof. But I have come across varying diagnostics and can&#039;t really tell based on the photos.&nbsp; I wish I had it because these photos were done in some hast when he visited recently. And I&#039;d really like to photograph it again including its edge, all the way around.&nbsp; It certainly does not have what I would consider &#039;wire rims,&#039; but I have seen some rather hefty rims on coins designed for circulation.&nbsp; But I have no 1909&#039;s that look like this coin.</p><p><br /></p><p>Matte proofs were actually trial pieces, similar to pattern status, and very lucky acquisitions, even then.&nbsp; : )</p><p><br /></p><p>Some diagnostice indicate a die chip to the tight of the second &#039;U&#039; in unum.&nbsp; Others say it is supposed to be to the right of the &#039;M&#039; in umum.&nbsp; Never having owned a matte proof, I don&#039;t know enough about them to tell, and when I look at photos of matte proofs, I believe see two distinct varieties.</p><p><br /></p><p>Addendum:&nbsp; I talked with my friend this morning and he said that at the FUN Show in 2008, three graders from three top TPG&#039;s evaluated the coin and verified that it is a matte which should grade PR-64 RB.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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