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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;iPen, post: 2305046, member: 69760&quot;]Then wouldn&#039;t ancient first strikes with immaculate dies whereby the utmost care and intent went into producing the finest specimens meant as presentation pieces to kings, queens, royalties, aristocrats, etc. be proofs? It wouldn&#039;t be hard to imagine this scenario as being plausible, or even highly likely. Although they may not have been colloquially referred to as &quot;proofs&quot;, the first coins minted may have been intended to be as perfect as can be so as to show to their kings or as tribute to other rulers of the ancient world. It would be the same intent as modern day proofs, and they&#039;d undergo a rigorous process of quality for their time.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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