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<p>[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 3155252, member: 19463"]I have heard the claims of transfer dies but have not seen the proof of their existence meaning the transfer die has to be transferred from a genuine coin and not from a master hub that is just as fake as the dies and coins it produced. Lack of a pair of solid/plated coins proves nothing since you can never prove something is not and never was because you have not seen it. Certainly most fourrees have no possibility of being from official mint operations but if I were a mint official producing fake coins on the side, I would never use the same dies and would be sure to mark the fakes so I could tell them. This also would work the other way since a plated coin overstruck with official dies would still be plated even if the mint doing that striking was not aware of its status. Parthian fourrees are quite rare. Below is a plated Parthian drachm. Can you prove that it was not struck on a Roman Republican fourree? Proof is not something that allows assumptions. We do the best we can and are slow to trust experts who know the answers before they hear the question. I am particularly slow to trust Roman Republican experts who believe their experience applies to all coins of all periods and places. </p><p>[ATTACH=full]809112[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 3155252, member: 19463"]I have heard the claims of transfer dies but have not seen the proof of their existence meaning the transfer die has to be transferred from a genuine coin and not from a master hub that is just as fake as the dies and coins it produced. Lack of a pair of solid/plated coins proves nothing since you can never prove something is not and never was because you have not seen it. Certainly most fourrees have no possibility of being from official mint operations but if I were a mint official producing fake coins on the side, I would never use the same dies and would be sure to mark the fakes so I could tell them. This also would work the other way since a plated coin overstruck with official dies would still be plated even if the mint doing that striking was not aware of its status. Parthian fourrees are quite rare. Below is a plated Parthian drachm. Can you prove that it was not struck on a Roman Republican fourree? Proof is not something that allows assumptions. We do the best we can and are slow to trust experts who know the answers before they hear the question. I am particularly slow to trust Roman Republican experts who believe their experience applies to all coins of all periods and places. [ATTACH=full]809112[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]
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