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<p>[QUOTE="Multatuli, post: 3155152, member: 89266"]I totally agree with Doug. Fourrée coins were struck since the earliest days, as early as the sixth century BC, as soon as Kroysos struck the first coins. In relation to the silver fourrées, there are some theories that speculate that the Roman State itself produced 1: 7 in proportion fourrées and regular. Imagine this on an exchequer with millions and millions of denarii. I believe this because there are denarii fourrées that are perfect, certainly struck by official dies. If this was done unofficially, by a corrupt moneyer who wanted to gain an extra money and risk himself being thrown to the beasts, we don´t know. There are, of course, coarse/rude fourrées, which are clearly ancient fakes. With gold, of course it is more complicated and I doubt that the State was behind anything. But that were certainly used in conventional circulation, to deceive the bearer, this I have no doubt. Not all of them are of dissimilar weight: some were minted on a silver core, lead, or their thickness was slightly larger than conventional.</p><p>Of course, it would be a great chagrin if you found a coin holder that was worth more than a month's salary, but some of our Roman ancestors certainly were ...</p><p>Here are two examples from my collection of gold ancient fourrés:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]809085[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>DIVUS VESPASIAN, posthumous memorial fourrée gold aureus, copying an issue struck by TITUS, 79 AD. DIVVS AVGVSTVS VESPASIANVS, laureate head of Divus Vespasian right. Reverse - S C inscribed on shield supported by two capricorns, orb below. RCV 2569. The gold plating would have been quite convincing when it was intact. 17mm, 3.7g.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]809086[/ATTACH]</p><p>Arcadius fourrée Solidus (383-408 AD). Imitating Constantinople mint issue of 388-392AD. DN ARCADI VS PF AVG/ CONCORDIA AVGGG. RIC IX 70c, 21mm 3.01g.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Multatuli, post: 3155152, member: 89266"]I totally agree with Doug. Fourrée coins were struck since the earliest days, as early as the sixth century BC, as soon as Kroysos struck the first coins. In relation to the silver fourrées, there are some theories that speculate that the Roman State itself produced 1: 7 in proportion fourrées and regular. Imagine this on an exchequer with millions and millions of denarii. I believe this because there are denarii fourrées that are perfect, certainly struck by official dies. If this was done unofficially, by a corrupt moneyer who wanted to gain an extra money and risk himself being thrown to the beasts, we don´t know. There are, of course, coarse/rude fourrées, which are clearly ancient fakes. With gold, of course it is more complicated and I doubt that the State was behind anything. But that were certainly used in conventional circulation, to deceive the bearer, this I have no doubt. Not all of them are of dissimilar weight: some were minted on a silver core, lead, or their thickness was slightly larger than conventional. Of course, it would be a great chagrin if you found a coin holder that was worth more than a month's salary, but some of our Roman ancestors certainly were ... Here are two examples from my collection of gold ancient fourrés: [ATTACH=full]809085[/ATTACH] DIVUS VESPASIAN, posthumous memorial fourrée gold aureus, copying an issue struck by TITUS, 79 AD. DIVVS AVGVSTVS VESPASIANVS, laureate head of Divus Vespasian right. Reverse - S C inscribed on shield supported by two capricorns, orb below. RCV 2569. The gold plating would have been quite convincing when it was intact. 17mm, 3.7g. [ATTACH=full]809086[/ATTACH] Arcadius fourrée Solidus (383-408 AD). Imitating Constantinople mint issue of 388-392AD. DN ARCADI VS PF AVG/ CONCORDIA AVGGG. RIC IX 70c, 21mm 3.01g.[/QUOTE]
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