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<p>[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 3189192, member: 112"]I could go along with the idea that the folks making these Expo medals, might and I stress might, have been willing to drill holes in them, right there on site, after they were minted, for those buyers who wanted a hole in theirs. I mean, back then a lot of folks wanted to be able to wear momentoes like this on a necklace. So yeah, I could see them doing it for them if they asked for it. And that would also explain why other examples don't have the holes.</p><p><br /></p><p>But that wouldn't have anything to do with grading them because it would not be part of the minting process. It would still be post mint damage just like if you drilled the hole yourself.</p><p><br /></p><p>And Jaelus, I understand what you are saying. But holing or enameling or coating at medal after the fact, after it was minted could only considered to be part of what you call the larger manufacturing process IF it was done to all the medals - not just some of them. If it's only done to some of them because of buyer's choice, then to my way of thinking one can't consider it to be anything but damage. </p><p><br /></p><p>It's a philosophy, a way of thinking, a way of looking at things. And others can see it differently if they choose to do so. Doesn't make them right, but they can choose to do so.</p><p><br /></p><p>To me, it's kind like saying that just because coins got scooped up in a scoop shovel - at the mint building - and damaged because of that, that it isn't really damage. Ya see, it doesn't matter who did the damage or when they did, or where they did it. The only thing that matter is that it occurred post strike. And if it occurred post strike then it is undeniably damage. That is the definition of damage that has always applied. </p><p><br /></p><p>Want another example ? Take this one - </p><p><a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/whoopsie.323510/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/whoopsie.323510/">https://www.cointalk.com/threads/whoopsie.323510/</a></p><p><br /></p><p>That coin undeniably has graffiti on it, and yet it's been cleanly graded. And that's just one example, just in the past few weeks there have been several coins like this - that there's just no way they deserve to be in a cleanly graded slab - and yet they are.</p><p><br /></p><p>It's what the TPGs are doing and have been doing for quite a few years now. It's just their next step on the road to slabbing almost anything and getting the public to buy it - accept it - because it is THEM doing it. Well I say horse puckey ! They can call a mule a horse all day long - and it still aint gonna be a horse ![/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 3189192, member: 112"]I could go along with the idea that the folks making these Expo medals, might and I stress might, have been willing to drill holes in them, right there on site, after they were minted, for those buyers who wanted a hole in theirs. I mean, back then a lot of folks wanted to be able to wear momentoes like this on a necklace. So yeah, I could see them doing it for them if they asked for it. And that would also explain why other examples don't have the holes. But that wouldn't have anything to do with grading them because it would not be part of the minting process. It would still be post mint damage just like if you drilled the hole yourself. And Jaelus, I understand what you are saying. But holing or enameling or coating at medal after the fact, after it was minted could only considered to be part of what you call the larger manufacturing process IF it was done to all the medals - not just some of them. If it's only done to some of them because of buyer's choice, then to my way of thinking one can't consider it to be anything but damage. It's a philosophy, a way of thinking, a way of looking at things. And others can see it differently if they choose to do so. Doesn't make them right, but they can choose to do so. To me, it's kind like saying that just because coins got scooped up in a scoop shovel - at the mint building - and damaged because of that, that it isn't really damage. Ya see, it doesn't matter who did the damage or when they did, or where they did it. The only thing that matter is that it occurred post strike. And if it occurred post strike then it is undeniably damage. That is the definition of damage that has always applied. Want another example ? Take this one - [url]https://www.cointalk.com/threads/whoopsie.323510/[/url] That coin undeniably has graffiti on it, and yet it's been cleanly graded. And that's just one example, just in the past few weeks there have been several coins like this - that there's just no way they deserve to be in a cleanly graded slab - and yet they are. It's what the TPGs are doing and have been doing for quite a few years now. It's just their next step on the road to slabbing almost anything and getting the public to buy it - accept it - because it is THEM doing it. Well I say horse puckey ! They can call a mule a horse all day long - and it still aint gonna be a horse ![/QUOTE]
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