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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;GDJMSP, post: 3185909, member: 112&quot;]No, your hypothetical doesn&#039;t work. Ya see, even circulated coins can be determined to have been very well struck, to have been of extra high quality when they were initially struck. That&#039;s why I said there were very few examples where the exceptions are made. The only time the exceptions are made is when basically the entire mintage of a given date/mint is known to have been struck either poorly or very, very well. Exceptions are not made for coins with a low condition census whether those still existing examples are high grade or low grade. </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Some folks get confused over what you&#039;re describing. The special designations, and this goes for all of them not just the PL designation, have nothing to do with the actual grade assigned to the coin. In other words the designation does not make the grade go up or down. A coin can be graded MS60 and still get the PL designation, or any other special designation. Or it can be graded MS69 or even MS70 and not get the designation. The grade the designations have nothing to do with each other and are not dependent upon each other in any way.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>No matter how bad the condition of the dies, or how weakly the coin is struck, no coin can ever be anything but MS the moment after it is struck. So yes, the concept of what you&#039;re talking about could happen. </p><p><br /></p><p>But AU50 would be a bad comparison point. I say that because a coin that is AU50 is still going to have very good details, it will only be graded AU50 because of the amount of wear on the coin - not for a lack of detail. </p><p><br /></p><p>But a very weakly stuck coin could easily have very bad details, with some of them even lacking detail at all, and yet it would still be graded MS. It might be a very low MS grade, even a 60, but it would still be MS.</p><p><br /></p><p>Ya see, you&#039;re trying to compare the amount of detail on a coin in order to determine if it is MS or not. But the amount of detail doesn&#039;t have anything to do with whether the coin is MS or not. <u>The only thing that determines that a coin is not MS is wear</u> - not the amount of detail the coin has.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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