What is the highest quality Counterfeit you have ever seen?

Discussion in 'Paper Money' started by tlasch, Apr 19, 2018.

  1. tlasch

    tlasch Penny Hoarder & Food Stamp Aficionado

    When I was working at Taco Bell 3 years ago, I caught two examples:

    A. A $100 printed on lienen stock paper with a high dpi laser jet printer. The Counterfeiter even rubberstamped a "watermark" in the right spot I presume with glue. And fit a solid "security" thread into the paper. Quite impressive.

    B. Another $100 bill series 1976 I believe printed on real money paper, again with a high dpi printer. The only way I knew it was fake was by magnification and seeing pixels at around 10-15x they were prominent. Still impressive but the colors were off and almost washed out in appearance which arose my initial suspicion.
     
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  3. SteveInTampa

    SteveInTampa Innocent bystander

    I’ve only held two counterfeit notes, and one had a very convincing feel but lacked a little definition. One I still own.

    Pick the culprit from this lineup.

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  4. tlasch

    tlasch Penny Hoarder & Food Stamp Aficionado

    Wow nice without seeing them in person I have to say the top
     
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  5. sakata

    sakata Devil's Advocate

    I also though the top one looked a little different, but hard to tell from a picture. I certainly would not give a thought to any of them if I had them unless one of them feels different.
     
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  6. CoinBlazer

    CoinBlazer Well-Known Member

    Did someone try to fake the star note?
     
  7. ManfredNam

    ManfredNam Non-functioning

    Top one ...
     
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  8. SPC CENTS

    SPC CENTS Hammering slabs

    The top note lacks the detail that the other 2 notes possess. The top note is fake.
     
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  9. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    Also the top. The black ink looks too dark. Just a guess.
     
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  10. Milesofwho

    Milesofwho Omnivorous collector

    The top one also has less definition when zoomed in.
     
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  11. SteveInTampa

    SteveInTampa Innocent bystander

    Definitely agree, especially the scrollwork around the border.

    But, if you had a handful of $20’s and were, let’s say counting them, you would probably not be suspicious if mixed in with them.
     
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  12. Milesofwho

    Milesofwho Omnivorous collector

    Agreed.
     
  13. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    If the "paper" is different, then anyone trained in handling cash will feel the difference when they count through the notes.
     
  14. Joshua Lemons

    Joshua Lemons Member

    On the top note the green seal is skewed to the right, not in the center of the word twenty like the other two notes.
     
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  15. RICHARD K

    RICHARD K MISTY & SASHA

    Top note " GREEN SEAL NOT CENTERED"
     
  16. NLL

    NLL Well-Known Member

    The color also looks off on the first bill. The details also look kind of mushy in some spots.
     
  17. desertgem

    desertgem MODERATOR Senior Errer Collecktor Moderator

    I guess the highest quality counterfeit I have seen is the one I missed, I just didn't notice it in my transactions.There are said to be very excellent ones in circulation.
     
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  18. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    That's the kind of mistake I would expect to not see on a counterfeit that comes from a color printer. There's no reason for one color to be offset from the others in that case.
     
  19. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    That was essentially what I was going to say. Whatever note it was, if any, it fooled both me and the person or machine that got it next.
     
  20. Neal

    Neal Active Member

    The top note is clearly the counterfeit, but not because of the position of the seal. I have seen genuine notes with the seal slightly off center, and the original from which the image was taken may have had that. But the detail everywhere is wrong, especially visible in the face and scroll work, but also in the "floating" print behind and around the green seal. In hand I would also suspect there is no microprinting anywhere, although this does not show on the genuine notes either in the pictures. I would also suspect in hand the watermark would be missing or "off."
     
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  21. ToppCatt

    ToppCatt ToppCatt

    The first thing I noticed was the difference in the width of the top bill.
     
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