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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;cpm9ball, post: 1202230, member: 24633&quot;]Chris, in no way was I implying that everyone who collects raw coins can&#039;t afford anything more than that. What I was trying to do was elicit more information about his collecting habits. I know a lot of veteran collectors who will purchase slabbed coins and crack them out for their sets because they prefer them raw, but it&#039;s much safer for them to buy certified coins, sight-unseen, from a dealer or on eBay and avoid (some of) the risk that the photos of a coin have been manipulated in some way.</p><p><br /></p><p>He said that he has nothing against the grading services, but that isn&#039;t what he said. He said he has nothing against the dealers, but that isn&#039;t what he said either. It irritates me that someone who has had no experience dealing with the grading services can make blanket statements like he did, and his comment about dealers submitting coins just so they can double their prices is more hogwash. What concerns me the most is that his comments can be read by beginners and give them the impression that they shouldn&#039;t trust the grading services or the dealers.</p><p><br /></p><p>What you said about end-roll toning hit the mark. Very rarely do you find any of the inner coins toned, IF THAT IS HOW THEY TONED IN THE FIRST PLACE. The mere fact that they were in a roll is meaningless because no one knows who put them in it or what may have been done to them before that. If the OP followed protocol, they were in flips anyway when they were submitted. We only saw three examples from his submission, and we have no way of knowing what the others look like, but if the graders who reviewed them found many that were suspect, it&#039;s only natural that it would make all of the others suspect. That was the point I was trying to make when I got the ridiculous comment about a misdiagnosed hernia.</p><p><br /></p><p>Let me ask you this, Chris, if I didn&#039;t challenge him about his statements, what other person here would have? It seems that everyone was just going with the flow and agreeing with what had been said. Maybe they just didn&#039;t want to rock the boat, I don&#039;t know, but at who&#039;s expense............the beginners, naturally!</p><p><br /></p><p>No, Chris, with all due respect for the collectors who prefer to collect raw coins, I stand behind my comments. </p><p><br /></p><p>Chris, too![/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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