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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;softmentor, post: 2171321, member: 10469&quot;]That&#039;s what I thought too. and the fellow at the Long Beach show, who has a LOT of experience, spent a long time with them, to be sure, because at first glance he though so too. but having never seen this sort of mark as a die mark, he really checked them out closely. </p><p>In the end, he did some very close checking on placement of the mark and did see a small variation in position. Also, he placed the coins on flat glass and rocked them, to see it they were flat. about half were still flat but about half were a little concave (would be made concave by a punch) and also we found 2 out of the 20 samples I had with me where you could see a little push through bump where who ever did this hit the punch just a little harder and dimpled the back side. Finally, there was a small variation of the mark, where some were deeper on the left side and some on the right. </p><p>Still the variation of location was so small that you really needed a loop to see it. Someone really spent a lot of time on doing this. Speculation?--- maybe used a jig to align the coin first, and to hold the punch in position. Perhaps projected an image onto the coin in the jig, or could have used a laser pointer, or somehow set the alignment. also would have hand to have the punch in the jig to have it hit so close to the same each time. There was also some difference in how hard each was struck that could not be explained by the die/press. </p><p>Finally, the margins around the mark were not really consistent with what you would expect if it was a strike through or an embedded bit stuck on the die face. subtle, but not exactly. </p><p>So in the end, it looks like someone either had a strange notion or wanted to deliberately try to counterfeit a variety error. But then you have to ask why would they have been put back into circulation? All questions that will probably never be answered. because... &quot;we were not there&quot; </p><p>fun while it lasted, great journey and learned a lot.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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