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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;ddddd, post: 2863532, member: 22377&quot;]A few of the reports that I have heard is that they grade conservatively and that people have had Canadian coins in those holders upgrade by 1 point at PCGS/NGC. This is just anecdotal evidence and does not mean your results would be similar.</p><p><br /></p><p>In the ebay listing for the German coin, the seller takes returns. So if you think the coin looks real and is properly graded, it might be worth the risk to bid on it. And if you sent it to PCGS/NGC and the coin came back counterfeit, you should be covered (paypal protection is 180 days).[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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