What is going on with this Lincoln cent

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by cash4coin, Jan 10, 2015.

  1. cash4coin

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    I was looking to purchase this cent but the photos made me reconsider. Either the cent is very well photographed and shows ALL the details or is it something else? centrev.JPG cent.JPG cent.JPG
     

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  3. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    All I see is a 1923 Lincoln Cent. Looks nice to me...?
     
  4. kanga

    kanga 65 Year Collector

    XF-ish coin struck by later state dies and used in the real world.
     
  5. Travlntiques

    Travlntiques Well-Known Member

    Thanks to good quality, cheap point-n-shoot cameras, I'd say it was just photo'd well. :)
     
  6. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    I see die deterioration looking at the metal flow. Also those hits on the breast and left field would make me stay away from this 1923 cent. And judging by the dirt around some of the lettering I would say it was cleaned also. Your choice though.
     
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  7. Markus1959

    Markus1959 Well-Known Member

    Yeah - I just see "metal flow" (lines) from a semi worn die having to labor to push the metal away from the devices (raised portions of the coin?)
     
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  8. Markus1959

    Markus1959 Well-Known Member

    Although under 10x mag I haven't seen the flow lines that pronounced on copper pennies. Still not anything to jump up and down about.
     
  9. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    The hits on the obverse kill it for me. You can find something better.
     
  10. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    I don't collect Lincoln's, but I think XF is a stretch. The appearance of corrosion on the reverse leads me to believe that it has been cleaned. I'd pass unless you really need it and the price is right.

    Chris
     
  11. Markus1959

    Markus1959 Well-Known Member

    I hope I look that good when I'm 92 years old
     
  12. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    Not likely to see it on the new zinc Lincolns, more likely to see plating bubbles and bursts, more likely to see it on pre-1982 95% copper cents.
     
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  13. Markus1959

    Markus1959 Well-Known Member

    Just a question - are the penny zinc plantchets struck then plated or are the zinc planchets plated and then struck - seems if they are thinly copper plated the zinc would show through in certain wear areas???
     
  14. MKent

    MKent Well-Known Member

    The pictures are super tho
     
  15. cash4coin

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    The photograper really has talent and a super good camera no doubt about that.
     
  16. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    Struck then plated.
     
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  17. Markus1959

    Markus1959 Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the reply - learning something new everyday!!!!!
     
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  18. Clutchy

    Clutchy Well-Known Member

    VF30, good dies and bad strike, the ear is its weakest link, IMO. But those distraction marks completely kills it. Not worth it.
     
  19. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Unfortunately what you learned is wrong. The zinc is rolled into strips, the blanks are punched from it, the edges are upset, then they are plated (barrel plated in a rotating barrel which tumbles the planchets during the plating process). The last step is striking. That is why split plate "doubling" exists. Sometimes during the striking the metal movement exceeds the stretching ability of the copper plating and it splits open exposing the zinc.
     
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