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Message:: [QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 1990844, member: 112"]First of all this wasn't my idea, it existed long before I ever came along. I am merely pointing it out. Charlemagne was chosen because he is the beginning, some say the revival, of the Holy Roman Empire. And yeah there was conflict after his death until 962 when Otto I was crowned, but Charlemagne was still the beginning of it. But the very right to coin money stems from the Emperor, given to other Nobles by the Emperor and from them to lesser Nobles and so and so on. That was the change, the sea change you mention, the beginning of it. No the methods for making coinage didn't change with him, but then methods remained basically the same until the advent of milled coinage. And the various designs of coinage are too myriad to even think of using them as lines of delineation, so it falls back to minting authority being once again centralized under a single ruler since the fall of the Roman Empire - Charlemagne. And the way of life that you mention, he was the beginning of that as well. With the fall of the Roman Empire there was chaos for hundreds of years, and that's the point. Chaos cannot be the beginning of anything, chaos ensues at the end of something. The beginning of a change starts when chaos ends. And that came with Charlemagne.[/QUOTE]