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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;TVO, post: 4859997, member: 114720&quot;]Z,</p><p>Everything you said is true <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p>Your first sentence is true because the second a coin is made with intent to deceive it is a counterfeit, not say a replica.</p><p>Your second sentence is also true as it must be since intent can’t be changed by anyone retroactively.</p><p>That is a very good start. You are doing better than some.</p><p>You do not, however, appear receptive to the idea that the subsequent intent of the new owner changes the fraudulent nature of the coin in the here and now, so that it no longer fits the definition of a counterfeit.</p><p>I have no Jedi mind tricks to help you understand that these coins, held by people with no ill will, are actually not the counterfeits you are looking for other than to say to try and equate the word contraband with counterfeit. Think of things that are legal in one State and not in others that can be moved from one State to the other and hence from one state to the other. Maybe that will help.</p><p>And you can try to answer the question, what about a coin not made to deceive that is later used to deceive. How does it fit the definition and isn’t that really the issue since nobody thinks this is about anything other than DC and nobody thinks his pieces are counterfeit when he makes them. Or do I have that last part wrong?[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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