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<p>[QUOTE="Insider, post: 2867014, member: 24314"]V. Kurt Bellman, posted: "I am INSTANTLY suspicious of any field in which people are writing books with definitive statements <b>during the relative infancy of the understanding of the subject matter..." </b></p><p><b><br /></b></p><p><b>"...However, I do recognize that numismatic authors IN PARTICULAR tend to not be so deterred. A lot of "crap" gets into coin books, and more joins it yearly."</b></p><p><br /></p><p><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie11" alt=":rolleyes:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> IMO, this is gibberish as it is a narrow view of the subject. Who is going to determine the actual dates of the "<span style="color: #b300b3">relative infancy of the subject matter</span>? Not any of us. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie7" alt=":p" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> We were not around. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie2" alt=";)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>I am a student of counterfeit detection. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie26" alt=":bookworm:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> I've been learning about this subject for decades. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie104" alt=":yawn:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> Therefore, I can say with 100% accuracy that much of the info being touted as truth when I became interested in coins in the late 1960's was pure uninformed nonsense. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie57" alt=":jawdrop:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><span style="color: #00b300"> However, I did not know this at the time. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie3" alt=":(" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> </span></p><p><br /></p><p>The ONLY book around on counterfeit detection written by an Internationally known authenticator was full errors! The Organization of International Numismatists counterfeit collection that was part of the first authentication class I attended was full of GENUINE COINS labeled as COUNTERFEITS and ALTERATIONS! Nevertheless, these early authenticators and their books and columns <b>CANNOT BE JUDGED BY WHAT WE KNOW TO BE TRUE TODAY. </b> They did the best they could while using all the knowledge they could muster at that time. They were the foundation during my introduction to authentication. YN's of today will use the works of others, alive now, to learn the subject. The books they use will have fewer errors. That is why I dislike the "new" folks and anyone else who disparages the folks who tried to enlighten us decades ago before their time. </p><p><br /></p><p>[USER=71723]@V. Kurt Bellman[/USER] continued: "I offer as one example all the UTTERLY FALSE garbage that went dressed as fact regarding the 2014 ANA show with the gold Kennedy release. Anyone who got their "information" (yeah, as if...) from reading CoinTalk is/was hopelessly uninformed, misinformed, and [misinformed] disinformed."</p><p><br /></p><p>Thanks for the information regarding these coins. Unfortunately, IMO, it has no bearing on this discussion at all. I believe we are discussing errors of a technical nature published in books rather than opinions, misunderstandings, press releases, and chat boards. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Insider, post: 2867014, member: 24314"]V. Kurt Bellman, posted: "I am INSTANTLY suspicious of any field in which people are writing books with definitive statements [B]during the relative infancy of the understanding of the subject matter..." "...However, I do recognize that numismatic authors IN PARTICULAR tend to not be so deterred. A lot of "crap" gets into coin books, and more joins it yearly."[/B] :rolleyes: IMO, this is gibberish as it is a narrow view of the subject. Who is going to determine the actual dates of the "[COLOR=#b300b3]relative infancy of the subject matter[/COLOR]? Not any of us. :p We were not around. ;) I am a student of counterfeit detection. :bookworm: I've been learning about this subject for decades. :yawn: Therefore, I can say with 100% accuracy that much of the info being touted as truth when I became interested in coins in the late 1960's was pure uninformed nonsense. :jawdrop:[COLOR=#00b300] However, I did not know this at the time. :( [/COLOR] The ONLY book around on counterfeit detection written by an Internationally known authenticator was full errors! The Organization of International Numismatists counterfeit collection that was part of the first authentication class I attended was full of GENUINE COINS labeled as COUNTERFEITS and ALTERATIONS! Nevertheless, these early authenticators and their books and columns [B]CANNOT BE JUDGED BY WHAT WE KNOW TO BE TRUE TODAY. [/B] They did the best they could while using all the knowledge they could muster at that time. They were the foundation during my introduction to authentication. YN's of today will use the works of others, alive now, to learn the subject. The books they use will have fewer errors. That is why I dislike the "new" folks and anyone else who disparages the folks who tried to enlighten us decades ago before their time. [USER=71723]@V. Kurt Bellman[/USER] continued: "I offer as one example all the UTTERLY FALSE garbage that went dressed as fact regarding the 2014 ANA show with the gold Kennedy release. Anyone who got their "information" (yeah, as if...) from reading CoinTalk is/was hopelessly uninformed, misinformed, and [misinformed] disinformed." Thanks for the information regarding these coins. Unfortunately, IMO, it has no bearing on this discussion at all. I believe we are discussing errors of a technical nature published in books rather than opinions, misunderstandings, press releases, and chat boards. :)[/QUOTE]
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