What has been your experience with submitting to PCGS for Crossover?

I have a few NGC, ANACS, ICG holdered coins I am considering sending to PCGS for crossover to PCGS.
My concern is that if I submit, requesting that they cross at listed grade, I may be getting them all sent back to me, wasting my time and money.

So, what has been your experience? Have they crossed at the grade you expected, or have you been disappointed when they were returned to you?

 

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I would be very curious if you did this what the outcome would be.

 

Ya know, it is really kind of sad that you send a group of coins to a place that is supposed hold the keys to thee "grading standards" held high, but turns out to be more of crap-shoot depending on who evaluates your coins and how they are feeling that particular day.

Some days you are lucky and some days you are not.

 

My one crossover attempt went 1 for 2 (an NGC Morgan crossed at the same grade while a PCI Franklin did not cross-that one was a long shot though).

In general, cross overs aren't worth the expense. The odds aren't great (PCGS tends to be conservative-in part because they are looking at the coin through a slab vs raw). You also pay a 1% fee of the PCGS guide value if it crosses (along with the grading fee).

I would only recommend trying on coins where the increased value of being in a PCGS holder justifies the risk (expenses if it doesn't cross). There are also coins where you are better off cracking and sending them raw to PCGS (no holder bias and no 1% premium); of course this should only be done in cases where you don't think the coin will get a details grade or drop down lower than you want.

 

Sometimes you want to give yourself a buffer but other times it is not worth it. If a PCGS MS 64 sells for significantly less than an NGC MS 65, you don't want to put 64 as your minimum. If you get it to cross at 64, you will lose more than if you get the coin back in the NGC 65 holder.

 

You make a very good point.

 

Tried it once, sent an ANACS coin to PCGS. I marked on the submission form to encapsulate it no matter the grade or condition. Of course they didn't.

 

Here's the stats from the site as of now:

 

Then share your choices per Series as to the preferred TPG/4PG to use, to help the collectors/hobbyists.

Full disclosure: CAC/CACG is my preference for all Series, excepting those categories that are not yet accepted for evaluation by CAC/CACG.

Your preferences?

 

The best advice is, if you want your coins to be in PCGS holders, BUY them in PCGS holders. The crossover game is mostly a world of frustration and wasted money.

If you are really serous about it, and have some grading expertise, the best thing to do is to crack out the coin and send it in raw. That what I did when I was looking for upgrades as a dealer. I might be wrong, but when PCGS sees a coin in an NGC holder, you have two strikes against you before you have even come to bat.

 

I’ve had better luck with cracking out than with crossing, although if the coin is an expensive one, I would probably try crossing.

 

I have had several that play this game tell me the same, always crack the coin out. I had good luck doing that.

 

I have rarely had successful crossovers. As has been said, if you want a PCGS certified coin, buy one in the first place. TPGs rarely second guess themselves. I find, if anything, NGC has been tougher on coins as of recent. If you want to try for an upgrade, you’re better off cracking out the coin. However, be careful doing so. I turned an 1885cc MS 64 PL into an instant details coin, by cracking the holder, and then the coin bounced out of the cracked holder onto the table, and then the floor. Turned a $1000 coin into a $200 coin immediately.

 

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