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Message:: [QUOTE="Insider, post: 2713245, member: 24314"][USER=15199]@desertgem[/USER] No, Improper alloy mix is what I was told by many sources including those at the Philly Mint.  See images at the bottom of this post.  That's the type of crystallization I like better than woodies.  I was told this is a similar thing as the different metals separated during cooling.  [USER=84179]@Oldhoopster[/USER] posted: "Although the coin is ruined, this is a great example showing the how different metal grains look after improper mixing. It's atopographic representation of the toning seen on "woodies". You can even see the direction that the strip was rolled, since the grains are stretched during this process." I was waiting for a member to ask which direction the strip was stretched as I never gave that a thought in the past.  Hopefully, Oldhoopster will educate us.  [USER=307]@mikenoodle[/USER]  Thanks, I'm trying to play nice. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie14" alt=":angelic:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />  I have hundreds of images to post; but this is not as much fun as the way I was taught by being asked "What happened to this coin!" <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie3" alt=":(" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />  Then each of our incorrect guesses were explained away until we got the answer.    [/QUOTE]