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Message:: [QUOTE="Lehigh96, post: 833379, member: 15309"]Heath, Don't take this the wrong way.  Buying that coin is crazy.  If it is not fake, it is most certainly a problem coin.  If you are planning on getting it graded, then skip all this nonsense and just buy one that is already graded.  I just checked Heritage's site.  They currently have 28 1909-S VDB Lincoln Cents in auction ranging from VG to MS66 and every grade in between.  Pick the one you want and bid on it. <a href="http://coins.ha.com/common/search_results.php?N=51+793+328&Ne=&D=1909-S+VDB&Ntx=mode%2Bmatchall&Ns=&Nf=&Ntt=1909-S+VDB&x=0&y=0&Ntk=SI_Titles" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://coins.ha.com/common/search_results.php?N=51+793+328&Ne=&D=1909-S+VDB&Ntx=mode%2Bmatchall&Ns=&Nf=&Ntt=1909-S+VDB&x=0&y=0&Ntk=SI_Titles" rel="nofollow">http://coins.ha.com/common/search_results.php?N=51+793+328&Ne=&D=1909-S+VDB&Ntx=mode+matchall&Ns=&Nf=&Ntt=1909-S+VDB&x=0&y=0&Ntk=SI_Titles</a> We know you are new to the hobby.  There is no reason for you to prove it by making a "newbie" mistake by buying a big ticket key date raw problem coin and then being disappointed when it comes back from the TPG. Paul[/QUOTE]