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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;cwtokenman, post: 318411, member: 2100&quot;]I&#039;ve read NGC&#039;s &quot;No Grade Booklet&quot; on several occasions. Portions of the text describe various kinds of cleaning, but the only types that NGC states they will not grade (slab) on a routine basis are improperly or harshly cleaned coins. Their writings, as I interpret them, leave other types of cleaned coins as qualifying for slabbing. If that were not so, I wonder why they simply did not say all cleaned coins will not be graded, rather than singling out the improperly and harshly cleaned ones. It is listed that cleaned coins may not be graded, but it sounds like it is left up to someone&#039;s opinion and not something automatic. This is just one additional area that I feel the tpgs are not consistent/accurate. From reading on-line descriptions of some slabbed coin rarities, it seems that the &quot;top&quot; tpgs will indeed (when it suits them) slab even some harshly cleaned and damaged coins. For an example from the other end of the spectrum, a co-worker had plans to &quot;make a bundle&quot; by removing coins from mint packaged proof sets, have them graded by PCGS, and sell them. He was crushed when nearly 20% of them came back in body bags, mostly for cleaning. One was for altered surfaces, and one for questionable color. It is not the color that I would be questioning.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I have always been of the impression that the plastic slab is part of the service (if your coin &quot;qualifies&quot; for grading). Do they indicate anywhere that the hard plastic slab is a bonus - I have never seen that on any of their websites if they do. Personally, I feel everything submitted should be encased, and I would think no less of any business that noted problems (even of being counterfeit) on the label. I do not see how that would make them look bad since they did not produce the coins. Is one not paying for their expertise and opinion? I would think that they should view all of their opinions as worth protecting in plastic.</p><p><br /></p><p>Its very possible I don&#039;t really understand how they work, as I have never submitted a coin and don&#039;t plan to. But I have read their websites numerous times, to verify or debunk various statements made about tpgs over the years.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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