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<p>[QUOTE="princeofwaldo, post: 5958270, member: 24091"]Examples in gold. Sometimes they call it MSxxPL other times they call it PLxx, ---sometimes with and sometimes without cameo designation; sometimes they make no distinction at all and simply call it mint state. This is especially true on older holders where it's obvious the coin is proof-like though there is nothing on the holder to indicate as much.</p><p><br /></p><p>Would be an interesting research project (for someone with the time) to document the evolution of PL designations. While I do not know this for certain, my suspicion is that the grading services originally began with only MS or PF (PR at PCGS) - and that the marketplace demanded some sort of distinction for PL beginning with Morgan dollars from the Carson City mint, and the PL designation was then adopted at a later date. I suspect the concept was then eventually applied more evenly to other issues besides Morgan dollars.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1243875[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1243877[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1243879[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1243884[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="princeofwaldo, post: 5958270, member: 24091"]Examples in gold. Sometimes they call it MSxxPL other times they call it PLxx, ---sometimes with and sometimes without cameo designation; sometimes they make no distinction at all and simply call it mint state. This is especially true on older holders where it's obvious the coin is proof-like though there is nothing on the holder to indicate as much. Would be an interesting research project (for someone with the time) to document the evolution of PL designations. While I do not know this for certain, my suspicion is that the grading services originally began with only MS or PF (PR at PCGS) - and that the marketplace demanded some sort of distinction for PL beginning with Morgan dollars from the Carson City mint, and the PL designation was then adopted at a later date. I suspect the concept was then eventually applied more evenly to other issues besides Morgan dollars. [ATTACH=full]1243875[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1243877[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1243879[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1243884[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]
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