What exactly is "Gem BU"...

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Atarian, Feb 7, 2012.

  1. Atarian

    Atarian Well-Known Member

    So I ordered some rolls of "Gem BU" Ike dollars. What should I expect? MS60? MS65? ???

    What's the official and/or unoffical definition of "Gem BU"?

    Thanks.
     
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  3. Coinsnake

    Coinsnake MorganMan

    I believe it goes like this:

    BU - MS60-61
    Choice BU- MS62-63
    Gem BU - MS64-65
    Choice Gem BU- MS65+
     
  4. ThinnPikkins

    ThinnPikkins Well-Known Member

    I always thought bu was for ms60-ms64 and gem was for ms65 up
     
  5. icerain

    icerain Mastir spellyr

    BU means brightly uncirculated, doesn't necessarily means a guaranteed grade.
     
  6. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Honestly, 63's would be my guess.

    That's the problem, there isn't one. There was a time when adjectival descriptions had a generally accepted meaning, but they don't any longer. Too many people have decided to, shall we say, liberalize the definitions.
     
  7. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Brilliant Uncirculated, but you've got the idea.
     
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  8. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor



    And depending on the seller, maybe some sliders (AU-58), IMO.
     
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  9. rodeoclown

    rodeoclown Dodging Bulls

    I see them as "marketing" terms now for higher quality coins that aren't slapped with a professional grade already.
     
  10. LindeDad

    LindeDad His Walker.

    Gem BU varies if selling or if buying part of the reason firms Like PCGS and NGC came into being.
     
  11. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Yup, that too.
     
  12. james m. wolfe

    james m. wolfe New Member

    ike.jpg ilikeike.jpg you may get this??? :D
     
  13. Hunt1

    Hunt1 Active Member

    probably 64 - 65. It could be 63 if it was a high end. all personal preference.
     
  14. gbroke

    gbroke Naturally Toned

    If it's coming from ebay and stated "GEM" anything, you should be happy if they are MS-60 or better.
    L@@K GEM MONSTER RAINBOW TONED CHOICE WOW
     
  15. Atarian

    Atarian Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the replies.

    This is from a big seller so hopefully there's at least some MS64s in there. Quite frankly that's all I'm hoping for. Will keep everyone advised.

    PS: James that's an awesome Ike! Too bad the date is totally gone or you could get it slabbed as probably the most worn Ike ever.
     
  16. saltysam-1

    saltysam-1 Junior Member

    I just love it when they talk down to you, like you are some little kid, when they say "WOW". It's actually their mentality showing up "child like" by thinking this will be the trigger word that makes you want to purchase the item.
     
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  17. james m. wolfe

    james m. wolfe New Member

    ugly-man-laugh-smiley-emoticon.gif you sure about that,it sounds like a good deal
     
  18. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

    In the case of this seller, if "Gem BU" is advertised, I would expect every single coin to be at least MS-65 or higher.

    Grossly and poorly used numismatic terms:

    Select
    Choice
    Gem
    BU

    One of my pet peeves is when a Lincoln seller decribes a coin as BU. Then you look and it's BROWN. Sorry pal, that coin is NOT "brilliant"....the correct term is "MS BROWN".


    As a collector, I really, really hate those terms because they are so often used incorrectly and just to confuse people. If you're not good enough to assign an actual numeric grade, you should NOT be selling coins. If you're not sure, just say MS-63/64.....for God's sake, you should be able to get a grade within a couple of points.
     
  19. BUncirculated

    BUncirculated Well-Known Member

    Remember, Gem BU was a term widely used before the fractional grades came on the scene.
     
  20. Mojavedave

    Mojavedave Senior Member

    That's not an IKE, it's a Blue man.
     
  21. TheCoinGeezer

    TheCoinGeezer Senex Bombulum

    It means whatever the seller wants it to mean.
     
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