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<p>[QUOTE="AndrewDS1, post: 2327718, member: 76393"]'GEM BU' is ambiguous. No general agreement on what it means, so it is meaningless except as a best guess. I've heard some say it is the same as an MS65, but then why not put that on the slabbed coin?? I just accept that GEM BU means it is a good condition BU. If you really want to know, you need to have it professionally graded with an MS or PF. </p><p><br /></p><p>BU should mean the coin was minted, but never released to the general public. So a guy who buys a monster box of BU ASEs is getting coins that haven't exchanged hands, except for the mint-dealer-buyer transfer. It just means a coin that wasn't man-handled liberally. Of course, coins rubbing against coins scuffs/dings them up, but they are still BU. Key word is 'uncirculated'. Brilliant means little or no handling them (skin oils, etc.).</p><p><br /></p><p>There are lots of widely accepted terms (MSXX) and (PFXX). But, increasingly, I see new terms be flouted that aren't 'officially' recognized. I think PCGSs' 'First Strike' is a sham, since they are NOT privy to when a coin was first minted. Even NGCs 'Early Release' is misleading. It could be in the initial release to the suppliers and dealers, but the 'First Strike' or 'Early Release' could be the first coin or the 30Kth minted out of the batch. Or no clue as to whether it was the first coin with a set of dies or the last when the dies are wearing out.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="AndrewDS1, post: 2327718, member: 76393"]'GEM BU' is ambiguous. No general agreement on what it means, so it is meaningless except as a best guess. I've heard some say it is the same as an MS65, but then why not put that on the slabbed coin?? I just accept that GEM BU means it is a good condition BU. If you really want to know, you need to have it professionally graded with an MS or PF. BU should mean the coin was minted, but never released to the general public. So a guy who buys a monster box of BU ASEs is getting coins that haven't exchanged hands, except for the mint-dealer-buyer transfer. It just means a coin that wasn't man-handled liberally. Of course, coins rubbing against coins scuffs/dings them up, but they are still BU. Key word is 'uncirculated'. Brilliant means little or no handling them (skin oils, etc.). There are lots of widely accepted terms (MSXX) and (PFXX). But, increasingly, I see new terms be flouted that aren't 'officially' recognized. I think PCGSs' 'First Strike' is a sham, since they are NOT privy to when a coin was first minted. Even NGCs 'Early Release' is misleading. It could be in the initial release to the suppliers and dealers, but the 'First Strike' or 'Early Release' could be the first coin or the 30Kth minted out of the batch. Or no clue as to whether it was the first coin with a set of dies or the last when the dies are wearing out.[/QUOTE]
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