What does this 80 S Morgan grade at NGC?

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  1. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Moderator

    This guy is going in this coming week... anyone wanna take a crack at what it will grade?

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  3. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

  4. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

  5. Detecto92

    Detecto92 Well-Known Member

    I'm not good at grading these. But I would say MS 66 on up, I think it's a PL as well. Very nice coin.
  6. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    I can't fully tell from the photograph but i was going to say say 65. I started at 64 and climbed up. It is a great strike. Is it proof? It has the rub marks on the high points of the cap ect, and I can't figure out what all that noise in in the fields. The strike is perfect... so I bumped it up to a 65, assuming the fields noise in only in the photograph and there are no bag marks to speak of, just the rub marks.
  7. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    A little nick on her rim. I like her at MS65PL.
  8. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    Interesting. I didn't see that on the reverse but I haven't changed my mind.
  9. texmech

    texmech Wanna be coin collector

    I would say 65pl as well
  10. LindeDad

    LindeDad His Walker.

    I'm at MS65PL the frost break on the cheek is the main distraction to my eye.
  11. bahabully

    bahabully Junior Member

    65n1.. pl... nice coin.
  12. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    My grade I'm torn between 64PL and 65PL. I don't like the frost break on the cheek or the obv and rev rim dings. And the rims seem to have a lot of light chatter. For an '80-S, think I'd have to stick at 64PL, but a high end one.

    NGC - who knows. I expect they'll say at least 65PL but 66PL sure won't surprise me. Honestly don't believe the coin deserves it though.
  13. rev1774

    rev1774 Well-Known Member

    Thinking 64PL, with the cheek break and some chatter on the reverse fields, nice coin overall!
  14. CoinCast

    CoinCast Member

    64* or 65. I'd love to be able see it in hand to see how PL it is. Its frosty but does it reflect is the question.
  15. elijahhenry10

    elijahhenry10 New Member

    64 PL. I don't like the mark on her chin, or it would be an easy 65/66.
  16. ddoomm1

    ddoomm1 keep on running

    while the slight mark on he cheek does not help the grade by any means, this is still a amazing coin. I would give it a MS-65PL to MS-66PL. The strike and overall great details, few and minor nicks and the 'wow' factor propel this Morgan into the MS-65+ range (for comparison, my avatar coin is a MS-66 ;) )
  17. x115

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  18. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    I believe that 1880-S have good strikes, although I could be wrong.
  19. jcakcoin

    jcakcoin New Member

  20. KoinJester

    KoinJester Well-Known Member

    I say NGC will give it a 66, I give it a 65 . At minimum it will get pl with a *
  21. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    That's also a big reason. Think "eye movement through the coin." The engraver was controlling that through his use of detail and depth. Where he chose to put that detail and depth is where your eye always comes back to. That graze distorts that intended eye movement through that coin just enough to meaningfully affect the grade. Your eye isn't supposed to be coming back to the chin but with that graze on that coin it is. Why is that meaningful? It's meaningful because, surprisingly or not, the way your eye moves through a coin is the chief determinant of how you feel about that coin.

    Am I going too fast for you boys and girls? :smile

    PS: And that's true of any artwork...
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