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<p>[QUOTE="red_spork, post: 8555787, member: 74282"]This is always really hard to quantify too, at least for me. I collect a pretty popular series of coins(the Roman Republic). The Eid Mar is an extreme example, virtually everyone who collects Roman coins at all knows what the type is and wants one, and certainly every RR collector. On the other hand, even dedicated RR collectors don't care that much about every minor rare-as-hens-teeth variety. The coin below is statistically extremely rare, known from 4 examples, only 2 of which are in private hands. It's even been published a few times. That said I only know of 2 others who really want it. They'd perhaps pay quite a bit for it or another example of the type but if 3 new examples came on the market demand may suddenly decrease to near nothing. I am occasionally reminded of that when I'm bidding in an auction and I can tell myself "[Collector1], [Collector2] and [Collector3] all have an example of this type, I bet there won't be much competition".</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1510474[/ATTACH]</p><p>Roman Republic AR Denarius(4.83g, 21mm, 10h). Anonymous. After 211 B.C. Uncertain mint. Helmeted head of Roma right; behind, X. Border of dots / Dioscuri galloping right; in linear frame, ROMA. Line border. Crawford -; Brinkman-Debernardi website 46(a)/1, example 2(this coin); Numismatic Chronicle 174(2014), "The Orzivecchi Hoard and the Beginnings of the Denarius", p. 85, fig 5.b(this coin)</p><p><br /></p><p>Ex Harlan J Berk Buy or Bid Sale 210, 6 February 2020, lot 116, ex Harlan J Berk Buy or Bid Sale 121, 10 July 2001, lot 266</p><p><br /></p><p>This rule doesn't apply quite as much in 2022 with the influx of new collectors, but in 2019 and earlier the pool of collectors of some of these types was so small that you could make some inferences and usually have a good idea how tough bidding would be just knowing what the other guys had and also I could know I probably wouldn't have a shot if no one had the type(which unsurprisingly is why most of these super-rarities I do own were bought via retail). I really wish I knew who all these new collectors are that care about obscure anonymous denarius or victoriatus varieties the way I do but I have yet to actually meet anyone who both cares about this stuff enough to be outbidding me at auctions and started collecting recently.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="red_spork, post: 8555787, member: 74282"]This is always really hard to quantify too, at least for me. I collect a pretty popular series of coins(the Roman Republic). The Eid Mar is an extreme example, virtually everyone who collects Roman coins at all knows what the type is and wants one, and certainly every RR collector. On the other hand, even dedicated RR collectors don't care that much about every minor rare-as-hens-teeth variety. The coin below is statistically extremely rare, known from 4 examples, only 2 of which are in private hands. It's even been published a few times. That said I only know of 2 others who really want it. They'd perhaps pay quite a bit for it or another example of the type but if 3 new examples came on the market demand may suddenly decrease to near nothing. I am occasionally reminded of that when I'm bidding in an auction and I can tell myself "[Collector1], [Collector2] and [Collector3] all have an example of this type, I bet there won't be much competition". [ATTACH=full]1510474[/ATTACH] Roman Republic AR Denarius(4.83g, 21mm, 10h). Anonymous. After 211 B.C. Uncertain mint. Helmeted head of Roma right; behind, X. Border of dots / Dioscuri galloping right; in linear frame, ROMA. Line border. Crawford -; Brinkman-Debernardi website 46(a)/1, example 2(this coin); Numismatic Chronicle 174(2014), "The Orzivecchi Hoard and the Beginnings of the Denarius", p. 85, fig 5.b(this coin) Ex Harlan J Berk Buy or Bid Sale 210, 6 February 2020, lot 116, ex Harlan J Berk Buy or Bid Sale 121, 10 July 2001, lot 266 This rule doesn't apply quite as much in 2022 with the influx of new collectors, but in 2019 and earlier the pool of collectors of some of these types was so small that you could make some inferences and usually have a good idea how tough bidding would be just knowing what the other guys had and also I could know I probably wouldn't have a shot if no one had the type(which unsurprisingly is why most of these super-rarities I do own were bought via retail). I really wish I knew who all these new collectors are that care about obscure anonymous denarius or victoriatus varieties the way I do but I have yet to actually meet anyone who both cares about this stuff enough to be outbidding me at auctions and started collecting recently.[/QUOTE]
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