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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;iontyre, post: 2073552, member: 70577&quot;]Good grief, what is &#039;cleaning&#039; anyway?&nbsp; It is unnatural &#039;wear&#039; on a coin.&nbsp; Clean an MS62 and you lose some detail, and now it has AU58 details.&nbsp; Let the same coin circulate and it also will fall to AU58.&nbsp; The coin is the coin, grade it based on the details it retains.&nbsp; Why should a coin that attains AU58 by cleaning be any different than a coin that attains AU58 by regular wear?&nbsp; Sure, the visual appeal may be different, and that is fine in determining value to the buyer.&nbsp; I&#039;m fine with including &#039;cleaned&#039; or other such designations to signify additional parameters, but what the heck is wrong with at least assigning a grade based on the details visible on the coin?&nbsp; See the two cent piece in my avatar?&nbsp; It&#039;s a beautifully high detailed coin, with smooth unscratched surfaces, among the best I&#039;ve seen in a non-proof two cent piece.&nbsp; PCGS &quot;helpfully&quot; graded it Genuine - Questionable Color - Uncirculated Details.&nbsp; Gee, thanks guys.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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