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<p>[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 3096476, member: 112"]But that doesn't that depend on how old that scratch is ? Granted, if it's fairly new it's gonna be shiny. But it it's been there a while the underlying metal exposed by the scratch is going to have had time to tone and not be shiny any longer.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I've said many times that a scratch on a coin creates not only am incuse line, but also a raised line beside the incuse line. This is true because the metal displaced by the scratch has to go someplace - it doesn't just disappear. And because of the nature of the metal - the metal being displaced sticks to itself on one side or the other, and remains attached to the coin. And the place where it goes is right beside the incuse line, and sometimes if the angle was right when the scratch was created, it goes to both sides of the incuse line.</p><p><br /></p><p>However, with a coin like this, one that we know was stored in bags for a long period of time, that raised metal that was created by the scratch can be easily rubbed off from coin to coin contact within the bag, while it was in that bag. Thus leaving only the incuse line of the coin with no raised metal beside it. And if that scratch occurred some years ago which it certainly had to do given that coin is in a GSA holder, then it logical to assume that the metal exposed by a scratch would have had more than adequate time to tone and thus not be shiny. In point of fact, given those circumstances, expecting it to be shiny would be a large stretch of the imagination. Would it not ?</p><p><br /></p><p>Now this in no way proves that it is NOT a planchet mark, but it most definitely does not prove that it is one either. Nor do the edges of the line not being sharp as one would expect with a scratch, because being in a bag for a long period of time, would allow ample opportunity for those sharp edges to have been worn down.</p><p><br /></p><p>My point in all this is - yeah, it's possible it is a planchet mark. But it is equally possible it could be a scratch. And when you're grading a coin can you really assume one way or the other ? I'd have to say you cannot. But even more than than, if it is a planchet mark, or a scratch - either one - can the coin be graded 64 given the rest of the condition of the coin ? And to that I'd have to say no.</p><p><br /></p><p>Just trying to get ya to put your thinking cap on Mike <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie2" alt=";)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 3096476, member: 112"]But that doesn't that depend on how old that scratch is ? Granted, if it's fairly new it's gonna be shiny. But it it's been there a while the underlying metal exposed by the scratch is going to have had time to tone and not be shiny any longer. I've said many times that a scratch on a coin creates not only am incuse line, but also a raised line beside the incuse line. This is true because the metal displaced by the scratch has to go someplace - it doesn't just disappear. And because of the nature of the metal - the metal being displaced sticks to itself on one side or the other, and remains attached to the coin. And the place where it goes is right beside the incuse line, and sometimes if the angle was right when the scratch was created, it goes to both sides of the incuse line. However, with a coin like this, one that we know was stored in bags for a long period of time, that raised metal that was created by the scratch can be easily rubbed off from coin to coin contact within the bag, while it was in that bag. Thus leaving only the incuse line of the coin with no raised metal beside it. And if that scratch occurred some years ago which it certainly had to do given that coin is in a GSA holder, then it logical to assume that the metal exposed by a scratch would have had more than adequate time to tone and thus not be shiny. In point of fact, given those circumstances, expecting it to be shiny would be a large stretch of the imagination. Would it not ? Now this in no way proves that it is NOT a planchet mark, but it most definitely does not prove that it is one either. Nor do the edges of the line not being sharp as one would expect with a scratch, because being in a bag for a long period of time, would allow ample opportunity for those sharp edges to have been worn down. My point in all this is - yeah, it's possible it is a planchet mark. But it is equally possible it could be a scratch. And when you're grading a coin can you really assume one way or the other ? I'd have to say you cannot. But even more than than, if it is a planchet mark, or a scratch - either one - can the coin be graded 64 given the rest of the condition of the coin ? And to that I'd have to say no. Just trying to get ya to put your thinking cap on Mike ;)[/QUOTE]
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