What do you suppose this is?

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by lordmarcovan, Dec 19, 2018.

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  1. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Should I PM a moderator and ask him to move this to the appropriate board? :p :D
     
    TIF, Dec 20, 2018
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  3. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    I knew folks would imagine all kinds of designs into that blank reverse. Pareidolia. We see it all the time with the people who are convinced they see "errors" on perfectly normal (or frightfully damaged) modern pocket change.

    (Not that I'm comparing y'all to the modern error newbs. But it's all too natural to see patterns or designs where you're expecting to.)
     
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  4. Mountain Man

    Mountain Man Well-Known Member

    It sure does and that would be my assumption, but you know what assume means.
     
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  5. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    The one moderator presently watching this board is about to go to sleep, as he is up well past his bedtime.
     
    lordmarcovan, Dec 20, 2018
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  6. Noah Finney

    Noah Finney Well-Known Member

    Oh ok..... I see that someone already got it...... That was fun, Next you get a coin like that one, try to stump us again. Lol. ;)
     
    Noah Finney, Dec 20, 2018
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  7. Theodosius

    Theodosius Fine Style Seeker

    I would have sworn it was an ancient coin.

    Interesting that uniface coins were still being struck that late. When you said uniface I was thinking Etruscan.

    John
     
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  8. lehmansterms

    lehmansterms Many view intelligence as a hideous deformity

    Lots of "early" (later medieval-Renaissance) Portugese coins - the billon Ceitils, mainly - have a similar turreted castle or fortress with water in the foreground. The Greek Phi Φ at the top is an interesting touch - I'm not too sure what to make of that. The Portugese Ceitils generally have a concentric legend, however. (Sorry, I have no prepared photos at the moment - if this thread goes on I'll think about photographing a couple of examples.)
     
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  9. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    Thanks. I did not consider those. The only Portuguese ceitils I've seen pictures of were some pretty ragged examples found at the site of Hernando de Soto's 1539 winter encampment in Tallahassee, Florida. As I recall, they did not feature a castle.
     
    lordmarcovan, Dec 21, 2018
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  10. juris klavins

    juris klavins Well-Known Member

    Yes - it's a gazebo prototype :rolleyes:
    vinyl-gazebo-octo-main.jpg
     
    juris klavins, Dec 21, 2018
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  11. Sulla80

    Sulla80 Well-Known Member

    Is the castle or temple overstruck on the head of Zeus?
    ByZeus.jpg
     
    Sulla80, Dec 21, 2018
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  12. Evan Saltis

    Evan Saltis OWNER - EBS Numis LLC

    Well, now it’s mine, and it’s a Ravensburg 4 pfennig, from 1622. Because it’s from the kipper und wipper period of economic turmoil, it was revalued at 1 kreuzer after a single year.
     
    Evan Saltis, Dec 10, 2021
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  13. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    @Evan Saltis - I was close, geographically and temporally speaking, but not quite there. Knew it wasn’t an ancient, but wanted to tease the Ancient forum folk with it here, because it does sorta resemble one.

    Glad you finally resolved this old mystery.

    I have no recollection of whose hands this piece passed through between my ownership and yours, or of whom I got it from, but there seem to have been at least four CoinTalk members involved, over time.
     
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    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

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