What do you suppose this is?

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by lordmarcovan, Dec 19, 2018.

  1. coinsareus10

    coinsareus10 Well-Known Member

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  3. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    Roman provincial- Eastern temple. Possibly struck in Philadelphia.
    Don't believe a word..
     
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  4. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    Not Philadelphia.

    You might be right to be skeptical, though. ;)
     
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  5. roman99

    roman99 Well-Known Member

    The one in America or in Jordan? (Amman)
     
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  6. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    It was almost certainly struck on the European continent.
     
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  7. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    Can't believe I've stumped all of you.

    But I set out to try, so...
     
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  8. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    This is a real ID challenge- not a prank.

    Well, sort of. There is one small pranksterish twist at play. More on that later.

    It is to the best of my knowledge a genuine coin, and an old one at that. Not a seal or replica or token. (Or roofing nail, haha).

    Can you make the ID?

    To be fair, it should be said that I myself do not presently know the exact attribution, though I've got a strong hunch about which direction to look for it. (And that hunch could be wrong, but such are hunches.)

    See if you can figure it out.
     
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  9. roman99

    roman99 Well-Known Member

    Upside down Spanish cob? Temple looks like a typical castle you'd see on a Spanish cob upside down.
     
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  10. Noah Finney

    Noah Finney Well-Known Member

    I don't know..... Spanish cobs are not exactly ancient, It has to be something ancient. Is this a Augustus caeser standing facing forward and holding a scepter, with the temple on reverse?
     
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  11. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    I only said the coin was old, not ancient. ;)

    (But since this is the Ancients forum, you can't be blamed for making that assumption. I was being deliberately vague.)
     
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  12. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    Do I see a giraffe there.
     
  13. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    @roman99 has seen through my ruse and recognized the twist.

    I turned the picture upside-down.

    Sure looked like a tetrastyle temple before, didn't it?

    But no, I think @roman99 is barking up the right tree, and that it is in fact a castle, not a temple.

    When I first saw this coin posted online by another member here, it was oriented the "temple" way, not the "castle" way.

    But invert it, and Lo! Castle, not temple.

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    But it is not a Spanish cob.

    At least I don't think so. I have a different idea. Haven't checked it yet.


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  14. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    Not unless someone slipped a controlled substance into your coffee.
     
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  15. Mountain Man

    Mountain Man Well-Known Member

    I've seen that "castle" somewhere on this forum before, but can't place it. Is the side you are showing considered the obverse?
     
  16. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    Yes, because that's the only side there is!

    It is uniface!
     
  17. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    Now, ask yourself what part of Europe where small uniface minor coins were struck in copper, (or coppery billon) and you're just about caught up with my hunch of where to look next.
     
  18. Mountain Man

    Mountain Man Well-Known Member

    Oh. Ancients aren't my thing, but I find them interesting. I thought the first side you showed us was severe damage so there was nothing to see.
     
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  19. Joshua Lemons

    Joshua Lemons Well-Known Member Supporter

    Being struck on the European continent and not "ancient", I have seen some uniface German empire pfennigs with a castle (maybe not that exact one) before. Is it Hamburg that uses a castle on its older coins?
     
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  20. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    Ahhh, but see, this isn't an ancient. I think it was struck in the 17th or more likely 18th century, but I haven't nailed that down just yet.

    I just couldn't resist posting it here because when it's upside-down, it sure looks like an ancient with a temple on it, doesn't it?

    (That's where the twist came in, see?) ;)
     
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  21. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    BINGO!!!

    Winner, winner, chicken dinner!

    I believe it to be a ca. late-1600s to 1700s copper or billon uniface pfennig from Hamburg.

    But I have not definitively confirmed that yet.

    Thanks for playing along.
     
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