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Message:: [QUOTE="Conder101, post: 1684229, member: 66"]Neither can they. No they can't and neither can the grading services.  That is why PCGS now calls ALL 1856 FE cents proofs, because they can't consistently tell the proofs for the Unc's and they were being called on it too much.  And both services have a lot of difficulty with the copper nickel proofs of the 1880's and will often call pieces that may be Uncs proof just to cover themselves (The business strikes are much more expensive and they don't want to be on the hook for the high cost of having to pay out on the guarantee if they are wrong.)  And there are other series where it can be very difficult to tell the proofs from the business strike coins as well. Back in the early 2000's PCGS ran ads looking for graders and offereing salaries of "up to $250K".  Of course most would start out at less.  But even a $100K salary may not be that great when you consider that PCGS is located in one of the most expensive places to live in the country.[/QUOTE]