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Message:: [QUOTE="nerosmyfavorite68, post: 24904624, member: 134416"]Dirtyoldcoins has a 'few' genres which are uncleaned/close to uncleaned.  I sampled most of the genres last year. Most of the 'uncleaned' genres were NOT uncleaned. The circa $7 'medieval' European ones (although most were 17th c. Spanish were the nicest. The $7 or 8 buck Antoninianii size ones were uncleaned, but commensurate with the price. The Byzantine cup-shaped coin (trachy) was uncleaned (but decrepit) and the Justinian 16 nummi was semi-uncleaned. The $12 'premium' Middle Eastern 'uncleaneds' weren't bad, but they weren't uncleaned, per se. They were the orangey type of desert patina highlights, probably a faux patina. Most of those were post-reform radiates. That's just my experience.  That was a year ago, and the stock may have changed. IIRC, the uncleaned Spanish were the only ones I had somewhat luck with, of the cheapie genres.  Stay away from the $3-4 ones. The $7 ex-dealer stock provincial 'uncleaneds' were NOT uncleaned.  Filthy, yes.  Uncleaned, no.  Out of three, I got one fairly nice one, one was decrepit, and one was decrepit with terrible BD.  I'd have been better off just getting a $30 decent one from a dealer. I think the 'uncleaned' silver for $30 is a terrible deal. Looking at the pictures, I could get an equal or lesser terrible one from a dealer for $15 or 20.[/QUOTE]