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<p>[QUOTE="nerosmyfavorite68, post: 24904489, member: 134416"]I ordered coins like those in the picture, from dirtyoldcoins in 2004, when the coins were actually uncleaned - it's incredibly rare to find actual uncleaneds now. </p><p><br /></p><p>The guides that are available now weren't available then. I tried 'best practices' of the period, following the directions on the packages. I tried gringott's mix (boiling them) and then olive oil. What a disaster. Many stayed in for years and got no better.</p><p><br /></p><p>There's a few decent videos on youtube about cleaning. Most of the ones that I liked used mechanical cleaning, very carefully doing it with a wooden tool.</p><p><br /></p><p>I have little patience, I'm not good with hands-on stuff, and I don't enjoy the process. I learned to buy better, already cleaned stuff, preferably with a great patina. </p><p><br /></p><p>I did buy a decent number of better uncleaneds this year, but it was to <i>leave</i> them as uncleaneds, to have before examples for each denomination.</p><p><br /></p><p>[MEDIA=youtube]l2j25dNzTCU[/MEDIA]</p><p><br /></p><p>This isn't the exact video I was thinking of, but you get the idea.</p><p><br /></p><p>My advice on the uncleaneds; Don't rush into anything. Find a good video, or get advice from experts, who actually have cleaned a lot of stuff. I completely suck at cleaning stuff, so I'm not the one for the hands-on advice. Victor Clark and other people here have cleaned a lot of stuff.</p><p><br /></p><p>The 1990's were the glory days of uncleaneds. I remember getting As-sized imperials and provincials from Matt Kreuzer for $1.50 each. Most of those were cleaned (the trachea weren't). While they weren't any world-beaters, most were VG or F, with very little bronze disease. 99% were able to be identified.</p><p><br /></p><p>If you can find good bulk deals on cleaned stuff, that'd probably be the best route. Dr. Fishman has retired, but I happily bought all the $25 tetrarchal-era Nummi I could from him, around 2009. They were VF and pretty nice. Even the AE3/centenionalii were pretty decent, for $5/each.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="nerosmyfavorite68, post: 24904489, member: 134416"]I ordered coins like those in the picture, from dirtyoldcoins in 2004, when the coins were actually uncleaned - it's incredibly rare to find actual uncleaneds now. The guides that are available now weren't available then. I tried 'best practices' of the period, following the directions on the packages. I tried gringott's mix (boiling them) and then olive oil. What a disaster. Many stayed in for years and got no better. There's a few decent videos on youtube about cleaning. Most of the ones that I liked used mechanical cleaning, very carefully doing it with a wooden tool. I have little patience, I'm not good with hands-on stuff, and I don't enjoy the process. I learned to buy better, already cleaned stuff, preferably with a great patina. I did buy a decent number of better uncleaneds this year, but it was to [I]leave[/I] them as uncleaneds, to have before examples for each denomination. [MEDIA=youtube]l2j25dNzTCU[/MEDIA] This isn't the exact video I was thinking of, but you get the idea. My advice on the uncleaneds; Don't rush into anything. Find a good video, or get advice from experts, who actually have cleaned a lot of stuff. I completely suck at cleaning stuff, so I'm not the one for the hands-on advice. Victor Clark and other people here have cleaned a lot of stuff. The 1990's were the glory days of uncleaneds. I remember getting As-sized imperials and provincials from Matt Kreuzer for $1.50 each. Most of those were cleaned (the trachea weren't). While they weren't any world-beaters, most were VG or F, with very little bronze disease. 99% were able to be identified. If you can find good bulk deals on cleaned stuff, that'd probably be the best route. Dr. Fishman has retired, but I happily bought all the $25 tetrarchal-era Nummi I could from him, around 2009. They were VF and pretty nice. Even the AE3/centenionalii were pretty decent, for $5/each.[/QUOTE]
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